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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
This is Nina Babairz, with Public
Watchdogs down here in San Diego, California, and I'm calling
in -- calling in really to make comments about the rest of the
story that maybe Mr. Camargo, David Victor didn't share with
you tonight.· At least we forgot San Onofre was shut down due
to a radiation leak, and that radiation leak was on the new
replacement state generators that we paid for.· Of course, we
paid for the old steam generators as well.· The new steam
generators that failed and 39 years and 11 -- I think 39 years
really.· And even before they started bearing the 3.6 million
pounds of radioactive nuclear waste, 108 feet from the Pacific
Ocean, they made sure there were massive emergency planning
exemptions granted by the NRC.· They made sure that all
off-site and on-site insurance exemptions were granted to the
investors of utilities.
· · · · ·And when burial did start of the spent nuclear fuel,
we had broken bolts and chips in the Holtec canisters, that
was shut down.
· · · · ·We had two accidents in August and July of 2018 that
revealed all the cans were scratched and gouged in the
downloading process.· It was shut down for 11 months for its
special investigation.· The NRC that revealed bad behaviors
that's continuing today.
· · · · ·We've been following an issue since October 17th of
2019 where Edison was granted their demolition permit by the
Coastal Commission under special condition 19 that required
them to have an inspection and maintenance program that
revealed that Edison is using an inappropriate calculation
methodology to measure the depth of the gouges in the cans.
· · · · ·And so, you know, take a look at our website, the
Public Watchdogs, there's a lot that's going to -- experienced
at San Onofre that you should take heed of.
· · · · ·Thank you.
| Publlic Watchdogs, San Diego, CA | | |
| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good evening.· My name is
Dolores Howard, D-o-l-o-r-e-s H-o-w-a-r-d.· I'm a resident of
San Luis Obispo County, speaking on behalf of the Santa Lucia
Chapter of the Sierra Club.
· · · · ·California produces enough renewable energy to
replace the Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant, and therefore,
the plant should be shut down -- excuse me, because my phone
slipped away from me here.
· · · · ·The risks posed by the storage of additional nuclear
waste are significant and unnecessary.
· · · · ·It is the legacy of waste that threatens our planet
and will continue to do so for countless future generations.
· · · · ·In addition to the issues with the storage of nuclear
waste, the potential weld embrittlement of the reactor vessels
is a peril waiting to happen.
· · · · ·UC Berkeley Nuclear Engineering Professor,
Digby McDonald, a long-time nuclear industry advocate,
recently co-wrote a report on unit one concluding while
regulators required PG&E to install samples of welded material
inside the plant, the effort to determine the condition of a
weld has stalled for the last 20 years, and there are
problematic issues with the testing program itself.
· · · · ·Do not extend the Diablo Canyon life.· Thank you.
| Santa Lucia Chapter of the Sierra Club | | |
| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Yes, Jane Swanson, S-w-a-n-s-o-n, a
long-time member -- I live in San Luis Obispo, a long-time
member of Mothers for Peace.· I have several comments.
· · · · ·First of all, the running of this meeting has been
really excellent.· There's strong opinions, and they're not
all aligned up, but everybody is extremely civil.· So good,
good for us.· That's SLO.
· · · · ·I also would like to endorse every word that
Dolores Howard said.
· · · · ·And our prior speaker mentioned the workers of Diablo
Canyon, and how he's met them and all seem like good people.
Mothers For Peace couldn't agree more.· We're very, very
opposed to nuclear power.· We're very, very opposed to a
nuclear power plant built on earthquake faults, but we do not
consider that the people that work at Diablo Canyon to be bad
people or the enemy or anything like that.· We're grateful to
them for working as hard and with careful integrity to
that can be done to try to keep that plant safe.
· · · · ·The dangers to the plant could come from many
sources.· There was an earthquake there, but there was
earthquake very, very near the Diablo Canyon plant.· I
know where it came from, but I saw USGS report that it
December 6th, so just a very short time ago.· It was a do all an don't was small quake, nothing bad happened, but it just emphasizes, yes, it's
an active earthquake fault.· It's not something from a long
time ago.· And you can't predict what happens next, so the
earthquake danger is for real.
· · · · ·Regarding spent fuel storage, comments were made
about how -- concerns about equity on scene, generational
equity.· I -- I took a few notes.· It was said, nuclear
communities did not give consent to house nuclear fuel long
term.
· · · · ·Well, I lived in San Luis Obispo before there was a
Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant.· I was not asked to give
consent to have my community host a nuclear power plant that
would produce waste that would be around for lord knows how
long.· So I mean, it -- if you're going to talk about fair
consent and equity and concern for everybody, start at the
beginning, not in the middle.· I mean, the problems are very
real about equity right now.· I'm not disagreeing with that,
but the root of it went back before PG&E applied to the NRC
for permission to build a nuclear plant here.· And it went on
from there when the NRC gave them the construction license
even though it was already known that there were active
earthquake faults right here.· So the problem goes way back
prior what we're talking about now as the storage after the
plant is decommissioned.· That's phase 3.· We never dealt with
phase 1.
· · · · ·Thank you very much.
| Mothers for Peace | | |
| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Yes.· Good evening.· My name
is Patricia Kohlen, K-o-h-l-e-n.· I'm a long-time resident of
San Luis Obispo.
· · · · ·Sticking with tonight's topic that has to do with
spent fuel and the storage of that, as you know it's going to
be stored on-site at Diablo.· My question is a simple one, how
would it be possible for residents of San Luis Obispo County
to evacuate should a larger earthquake lead to a radiation
release, noting that there is only one major road north,
that's Highway 101, over Questa Grade, and this frequently
backs up during non-emergency times?· If the panel could
address that, that would be wonderful.· Thank you.
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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Okay.· Do you have time for a
four-minute speech of mine?· First off, that's how long it is.
· · · · ·MR. ALMAS:· Three minutes.
· · · · ·MR. BARKDULL:· Okay.· Try to cut it short.
· · · · ·All right.· She's right -- you're right about one
thing, we need to shut it down -- shut it down, because it
does sit on a high -- on a seismic hazard zone, which is very
hot -- high.· And if I could, I would show you a map -- map of
that whole -- map of the whole -- of the nuclear power plants
on earth that sit on -- sit on seismic activity zones.
· · · · ·But moreover or not, I've show -- I would even show
you a video that was made by Ace Hof -- I think Ace Hoffman,
which explains how California could suffer a nuclear accident
that's similar to Fukushima if an earthquake strikes the plant
and it explodes, releasing radioactivity into -- from it in
the form of a poisonous cloud at Diablo Canyon, which could
drift for hundreds of miles in highly radioactive concentrates
for 50 miles away, which is Santa Barbara, to 200 miles away,
which is San Diego.
· · · · ·I live about 75 miles away from the plant in the
Central Valley.
· · · · ·Could you imagine have -- can you imagine -- can you
imagine this?· We're already suffering -- unless we do
something about climate change, we are going to suffer --
Florida is going to suffer a refugee crisis, because they'll
be forced to evacuate Florida, which will be flooding.· Just
imagine if we had to do that with California, one of the most
populated -- is it the most populated state?· Is it?· I think
it is -- one of the most populated states in the United
States, having to evacuate all that many people to the -- to
the neighboring states.· That would be a crisis beyond
comprehension -- beyond comprehension.
· · · · ·We can also -- also we could, with the renewable
energy sources like solar wind power -- plenty of other ways
to generate electricity that doesn't pose the same risk as
nuclear power.· Just take -- just take a look at Three-Mile
Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima.· They're -- they're act --
well, Three-Mile Island, no -- could have been bad if it
actually did go off.· But Chernobyl and Fukushima, the
places -- the areas around it are still unhabitable --
unhabitable to humans.· Almost makes us wish we were immune to
radiation, but we're not -- but we're not.
· · · · ·And then -- and we get -- and the Hisashi Ouchi.· You
should look up that guy who suffered the most -- the worst --
worst ways to die from radiation poisoning.· I don't care if
we have to try to convince -- we have to not only convince --
we have to try to not only convince to get this plant shut
down but also convince those who want to keep it open that it--
MR. ANDERS:· That's three minutes --
· ·MR. BARKDULL:· -- that it should be shut down.
· ·MR. ANDERS:· -- Jeffrey.
· ·MR. BARKDULL:· Thank you.· Thank you.
· ·So -- okay.· So enough is enough.· This plant needs
shut down.
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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Yes, I'm Kathy Iwane.· I reside in Del Mar, San Diego
County.· I have to echo this is a really civil process, quite,
quite different from the mudslinging that I've experienced for
the last -- gosh, since 2014 with our own citizens' --
sorry -- engagement panel regarding San Onofre.
· · · · ·I evacuated my family after 20 years in Japan due to
the Fukushima disaster, so don't get me started on nuclear
power.· I have had my own experience and then landed in Solana
Beach; and then the day after I landed, there was a radiation
leak at San Onofre.· And so I -- somehow the universe has put
me in the direction, and we were involved and shut down, and
it's been a very interesting last 12 years since we left
Japan.
· · · · ·But tonight, I'm talking about dollars.· Just last
month we all know that PG&E filled its -- filed its
relicensing application to keep Diablo Canyon running for 20
years beyond its closure date.· Well, how did this happen?
And it's just what I'm noticing is that we've got less and
less and less of a democratic process happening, and less and
less of a represent -- representation of the people.· We have
Gavin Newsom's sneaky Senate Bill 846 allocating $1.4 billion
for a forgivable loan from the state to PG&E to fund the
continued operations of the plant.· And we all -- we all
understand that this will be repaid in part by all of
California's taxpayers.
· · · · ·Now, this is getting back to some comments we heard
earlier today about, you know, people that didn't even benefit
from the electricity or the -- the splitting of the atoms at
San Onofre.· We're talking about taking that waste and dumping
it on to, you know, someone that's going to get equity, or
they're going to get some sort of financial benefit.· And
they're making that decision for the next 10 to 15, perhaps
20, 30 generations.· We don't know yet.· And this is just --
it's such an interesting process to view, because it's
happening in our own state.
· · · · ·Why would we in San Diego have the -- who have the
highest utility bills in the country be made responsible for
Diablo Canyon's license extension costs when we are busy
paying off a $2.5 billion fiasco called San Onofre?
· · · · ·And I know we were told, Let's just talk about spent
fuel tonight, and it's always the public that gets their two
minutes and, Stay on topic, with no rebuttal.· But it's really
important.· I've done webinars on spent fuel.· I've done some
research.· We've been expert -- it would be really nice to
have some answers on this --
MR. ANDERS:· That's three minutes, Kathy.
· · · · ·MS. IWANE:· Thank you.
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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Yes.· Marty Brown, B-r-o-w-n.
· · · · ·There are so many reasons to say no to PG&E's license
extension; enrollment of containment domes, seismic
vulnerability, radioactive waste with no finality in its
toxicity, nor ethical repository site, blocking safer
alternatives from being transmitting harm to the ocean life
with once-through cooling, and of course, the $6 billion price
tag to repairs.· It is our moral and fiscal obligation to say
no to PG&E's license extension.
· · · · ·Thank you for listening.
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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
· · · · ·My name is John Post, J-o-h-n P-o-s-t, like fence, or
wood or dumb as; take your pick.
· · · · ·I want to preface my comments just by saying that
I've been a resident here in San Luis Obispo for about two or
three years after a long absence.· I was a Cal Poly student
back in the late 70s, early 80s.· I remember the Mothers of
Peace -- for Peace and the Abalone Alliance and all the
conversation at that time.· I spent most of the time since
that point in time working inside the Department of Energy
complex nation-wide at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.
I was a proud UC employee for 16 years there until the
laboratory changed contract.· And I've been inside just about
all the Department of Energy facilities, include -- including
the Waste Isolation Pilot Plant in New Mexico, which is a deep
geological repository.· It's just not open to commercial
waste.
· · · · ·I've been a member of the governance process that the
government has in place for -- and pier-review for the waste
treatment plant in eastern Washington, and I've got a little
experience with that.· So --
· · · · ·First thing I want to say is, is I appreciate our
neighbors and friends locally that work for PG&E.· I have --
all the ones I've met have been good people.· I've never had
any sense at all that they had any devious corporate agenda or
anything, you know.· They live here too.· I think they do good
work, and I think every once in a while we ought to take a
minute and say that.
· · · · ·For the commission -- or the panel, I -- I look to
you to steward the public trust, and so I was going to say
some other stuff tonight.· But one of the things that struck
me tonight is -- is the questions you're asking are often good
questions.· I'm just wondering why you don't already know the
answers to them.· There's $46 billion sitting out there in the
trust fund.· How much of that is from PG&E?· How much of that
resource is available to us here?· Do we know the answer? I
actually know the answer.· The answer is none.· Because that
entire trust fund is upside down, and any surplus is used to
offset the -- the deficit.
· · · · ·What's the panel's perspective on representing the
public's interest in long-term storage?· It doesn't sound like
we have one.· We want to keep it all here, according to our
friends from Mothers For Peace.· I think we need to get there.
· · · · ·The waste treatment plant in eastern Washington has
56 million gallons of mixed waste, I'll say, nestled on the
shores of the mighty Columbia.· We're worried about what we've
got down here.· This is a larger problem.· Liability is only a
question when you're transferring risk.· If you have to deal
with liability, it's because an event has occurred and who
cares about the finances at that point.
· · · · ·I think I'm out of time.
· · · · ·MR. ANDERS:· Your three minutes are up.
· · · · ·MR. POST:· Yeah, thanks.· I can go on, but I won't.
· · · · ·Thank you.· Thank you for your service today.
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| December 13, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | Public comment presented during the December 13, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
I live in a county that successfully
fought a nuclear power plant in Sonoma County and is looking
forward to a future in renewable energy and has a strong CCA.
· · · · ·I very much appreciate this meeting.· I think it's
been one of the most informative meetings I've heard in a long
time.· Especially appreciate the presentation of San Luis
Obispo Mothers for Peace, representative Molly Johnson. I
think she spoke very eloquently, very honestly, and really
reiterated a lot of -- every word really that I heard tonight
in this meeting.· So I would like to just really endorse her
presentation and say thank you for this opportunity to let me
really do this and listen to this meeting.· Thank you.
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| December 11, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Dear Panel:
I’d like to bring to your attention the following in-depth reporting by the San Francisco Chronicle in relation to A4NR’s continuing advocacy for prescribing a more stringent radioactive cleanup level in the county’s EIR for the Diablo decommissioning project.
PG&E themselves represented to the County in their December 2021 Repurposing and Reuse Concepts Report a candid admission that public perception of contamination at the site may result in resistance to certain uses. As this article reveals, when the perceptions become reality, the consequences become more dire. Neglecting to properly address radioactive cleanup at the Diablo site can hamstring potential future projects such as those envisioned for Parcel P.
The Panel should consider this information and advocate for the more stringent cleanup standards.
Yours truly,
DAVID WEISMAN
Legislative Director
Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility Legal Fund
PO Box 1328
San Luis Obispo, CA 93406
(805) 704-1810 (cell)
david@a4nr.org
www.a4nr.org
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | 120723-Residual-Radioactivity-hampers-Hunters-Point-redevelopment-SFChron.pdf | |
| December 8, 2023 | Other | Please, PLEASE, teach the guy who does your radio spots how to pronounce "nuclear." His "nookyalur" makes him sound like a moron, and reflects badly upon your organization.
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| November 3, 2023 | Panel Website | I am confused about future meeting dates. When I go to https://diablocanyonpanel.org/# I see a next meeting of Dec. 13. If I go to diablocanyonpanel,org I see Nov. 29 but no Dec. 13. Both website links use the same graphics and look authentic. Can you clarify which is accurate? Or are both meetings scheduled and am I misunderstanding the organization of the website?
| SLO Mothers for Peace | | |
| November 3, 2023 | Other | Meetings:
https://diablocanyonpanel.org/
https://diablocanyonpanel.org/2023-panel-meetings/
These web pages provide different information for the upcoming meetings. Please clarify.
Thanks!
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| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good evening, Panel.· My name
Dr. Gene Nelson.· That's Nelson like the Admiral and I'm
the President and Sr. Legal Researcher for a pro
Diablo Canyon organization called Californians for
Green Nuclear Power.
· · · · · · ·My comments tonight really are explained in
the first sentence that
Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Panel is acting
prematurely.· Particularly in the light of passage and
the action of SB 846 last year on September 2, 2022.
· · · · · · ·SB 846 preserved the option of extended
Diablo Canyon operations at least until 2030.
Diablo Canyon's benefits include the safe, abundant
reliable cost effective and zero emissions of generation
of a huge amount of power.
· · · · · · ·Diablo Canyon generates the equivalent of
five Hoover Dams of electricity each year, and that's in
a compact facility.· You really don't get that until
you've been there to see how small it really is.
· · · · · · ·We've been hearing a lot tonight about
millions of dollars from the State or whatever.
· · · · · · ·Diablo Canyon generates, pumps in around a
billion, not a million, but a billion dollars in
regional economic benefits each year, and in addition to
that huge amount of power.· Those benefits will
disappear if Diablo Canyon is closed.· I'm sure these
were some of reasons why the Legislature and the
Governor enacted SB 846 last year.
· · · · · · ·Now, I've worked briefly at the Plant.
I've visit many times.· And it's a high-security
facility.· Any encroachment of Parcel P would not be
safe or wise.
· · · · · · ·The best and the highest use of
Diablo Canyon Lands work to keep Diablo Canyon running.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Californians for Green Nuclear Power | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
My name is Michael
Khus-Zarte.· Spelled, K-H-U-S hyphen Z-A-R-A-T-E.
· · · · · · ·I'm here helping two Chumash Tribal groups
that are on the Native American Heritage Commissions,
MLD and recognized lists, the Coastal Ban and
Chumash Nation and the Northern Chumash Tribal Counsel.
· · · · · · ·I wish to thank the Panel for having this
hearing here today.· I've listened with great interest
and I want to point out that our relationship with
Diablo goes back thousands of years.
· · · · · · ·But more recently, I can attest to this
personally, it is our Tribal Representatives who are
there when the Plant was being built and some thirteen
Ancestors of ours were removed in the Plant footprint
for that Plant to be built there.
· · · · · · ·We had to go ahead and witness that, and
rebury those ancestors.
· · · · · · ·So our relationship with the Plant goes
back to where it even before it even started.
· · · · · · ·And in more recent years we've held
Ceremony there.· The Winter Solstice Ceremony according
to our traditions and those included various members of
other various Tribal Groups, not just our own.
· · · · · · ·No single Tribal Group can or should
monopolize or assume that they can speak for all of us.
I don't think that anyone in the United States of
America would tolerate having one or two representatives
for all of the 50 States in all the 330-million people
in this country.· It's the same thing for all our
Tribal Groups.· It's not our fault that our history has
fractionalized us.
· · · · · · ·But be it as it may, I would encourage the
Panel to make sure that we include all of the various
Tribal Groups that have expressed cultural affiliation
to this most precious and beautiful land out there.
· · · · · · ·The Native American heritage Commission as
a term, that's called Most-likely Descendant.
· · · · · · ·That term, what it means is that there is,
to expedite mitigation for the damage that's in the
Coastal Resources and to our sacred sites when they are
impacted by development, is to expedite the development
of those lands.· It's not necessarily to represent us.
· · · · · · ·My point is that Most-likely Descendant
does the not mean "The only likely Descendants," we are
the other likely descendants of Diablo Canyon and we
have not always been heard by this body.
· · · · · · ·I regret that.· I hope it's remedied.
· · · · · · ·Our position, not that we've been asked,
but our position is that that they wish to see the
Conservation of Diablo Lands maximized.
· · · · · · ·We want to see Public Access maximized.
That is our position about the reuse of the lands at
Diablo Canyon and to keep them as pristine as they have
been since time and in memorials since my ancestors
walked and lived there.
· · · · · · ·Thank you so much for having me here this
evening.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Coastal Band of the Chumash Nation and Northern Chumash Tribal Counsel | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good evening, Panel.
David Wiseman.· Director Alliance for
Nuclear Responsibility.· And indeed, just to clarify the
issue regarding preemption of this issue in the
Public Utilities Commission case that Mr. Jones
mentioned today, PG&E corrected its written testimony
and acknowledged under oath that the Federal Preemption
of Radiological Cleanup Standards for the NRC License
sites only applies, quote, "Until termination of
Department of the operating license." Un quote.
· · · · · · ·With the testimony so corrected PG&E's
witnessed acknowledged agreement under oath with the
California Costal Commission jurisdictional finding for
the Coastal Development Permit regarding the Humbolt Bay
Nuclear Decommissioning.
· · · · · · ·Quote, "The state as jurisdiction over
post-license conditions including those related to
radiological concerns."· End, quote.
· · · · · · ·So I hope that clarifies the statement
regarding what is and isn't preempted in this case.· If
is not.
· · · · · · ·Now that said, what you are looking further
to do, then, is to discuss the redevelopment of
Parcel P.· The question is, well, what type of a Site
would folks be looking to possibly redevelop?· Would it
be the cleanest and most attractive sight of potential
development?
· · · · · · ·To that end PG&E submitted to
Susan Straking of the County Planning in December of
2021.· As it says here,
· · · · · · · "Enclosed is the Diablo Canyon Power
· · · · ·Plant Site Re-purposing and Reuse Concepts
· · · · ·Report."
· · · · · · ·And it goes on to say,
· · · · · · · "The land use concepts presented in
· · · · ·the enclosed report may assist potential
· · · · ·future successor entities interested in
· · · · ·reuse of the site by providing information
· · · · ·on potential opportunities and drawbacks
· · · · ·of each potential land use."
· · · · · · ·End quote.
· · · · · · ·That was by Mr. Jones.
· · · · · · ·And if you go inside to the Table of
"Opportunities and Constraints," under "Constraints"
you'll find.
· · · · · · · "Radiological and chemical
· · · · ·contamination with the bullet point
· · · · ·noting, perceived contamination of the
· · · · ·site by the public may result in
· · · · ·resistance to certain uses."
· · · · · · ·So that bodes well or portends well that
you should put out to the public best possible site in
terms of its cleanliness to attract potential reuse.
· · · · · · ·And indeed, in the Humbolt Bay Decision the
Public Utilities Commission acknowledged in their
Decision, quote,
· · · · · · · "The uncertainty and find some merit
· · · · ·in PG&E's efforts to assess and
· · · · ·incorporate an expectation of regulatory
· · · · ·and public tendency towards higher
· · · · ·standards of site cleanup."
· · · · · · ·That's more nuclear facilities
decommissioning.· We anticipate efforts to reduce the
confusion and prove coordination of Stat and Federal
regulations.· We also think the public and regulatory
interest is heightened and reasonably likely to lead to
lower acceptable limits for residual radiological
contamination in the future.
· · · · · · ·So between the past Public Utilities
decisions, the current case, and their own report on
redevelopment I think you see the evidence there that it
is worth considering the stronger standard, and you can
recommend that.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
I'm Lori Wolf W-O-L-F, just like the beast.
I'm a Board Member of the Alliance for
Nuclear Responsibility.
· · · · · · ·There have been a number of study sessions
and meetings since Draft Environmental Impact Report for
the Decommissioning of Diablo Canyon that's been
circulated for comment.· The comment period closes
Monday the 25th of September, and be sure that your
comments are made through the County Planning to be a
part of the record must me responded to.
· · · · · · ·One comment we can all add to any other
individual concerns is the County of San Luis Obispo
does have the authority of the
Issuer of the Development Plan, the
Coastal Development Permit and the
Conditional Use Permit.
· · · · · · ·The condition approval of
on-site remediation to the Best Practices level of not
to exceed 10 millirems.· The same tighter standards that
were accepted by the NRC in Maine, Vermont,
Massachusetts and New York from there sight cleanup up
standards.· There is the no Federal preemption to
prevent the County from taking this step as the
transcripts and sworn testimony in the
CPUC Decommissioning proceeding Mr. Jones mentioned
previously attests to.· Phrasing is important and it was
somewhat misleading what we heard tonight.· The County
can stay 10 millirem cleanup standard.
· · · · · · ·This Engagement Panel can recommend
10 millirems standard as an alternative and a condition
for any Local or State approval for decommissioning
standard.· We deserve it and I hope you make that
recommendation.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good even, Jen Haft.· HAS, as in
Frank, T as in Tom.· San Luis Obispo and Cal Poly.
· · · · · · ·Good evening.· My name is Jen Haft. I
serve as the interim Chief of Staff to Cal Poly's
President, Jeffrey Armstrong.
· · · · · · ·He regrets that he could not be here this
evening.· We appreciate your interest in the future of
Diablo Canyon.· Diablo Canyon represents approximately
on 12,000 acres of Coastal land and contains many sites
and landscapes of historical and cultural significance
for the YTT Northern and Chumash Tribe of
San Luis Obispo County and region.
· · · · · · ·The community unanimously invited Cal Poly
to put a leadership role in that future and we ARE egar
to be true community partners and these efforts.
· · · · · · ·As an institution with experience in
conservation projects and leadership and regional
economic development the University has been working
closely with key partners including Reach, YTT Northern
Chumash and Land Conservancy of SLO County for more than
two years toward the collective goal of delivering
substantial long-term benefits to the Central Coast
Community.
· · · · · · ·One part of this is the desire to a portion
of the important Tribal Land return to the YTT
Northern Chumash and a significant portion of the Land
placed in conservancy for the long-term benefit of and
use by the Citizens of San Luis Obispo County and the
State.
· · · · · · ·Another goal is to spark economic
development and innovation to accelerate climate
resilience.
· · · · · · ·With investment access at the Cal Polly
Pier and Tech Park and co-use of these Parcel P can
collectively foster a clean tech innovation ecosystem
advancing R and D and spur new companies and jobs in the
region.· Combined with additional resources and
partnership this will form the foundation of a new
Central Coast hub for renewable energy Marine Science,
aquaculture, desalinization and emerging technology.
· · · · · · ·Cal Poly is renowned for it's glorified
ethos in contribution to aerospace, Marine Science,
engineering, architecture, agriculture and beyond.
· · · · · · ·We are excited by the potential for
important contributions in the field of clean tech and
climate resilience and look forward to continuing our
work with these important community partners as we
explore and refine the possibility.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Cal Poly | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Thank you.
· · · · · · ·My name is Paolo Peron.· I'm calling in
form Ventura.· I'm with the Nature Conservancy.
· · · · · · ·And first I just want to talk the Panel
CNRA.· The Coastal Conservancy, in particularly,
Assemblyman Moratis and Senator Laird for their
Leadership on this particular issue.
· · · · · · ·We are curious if there is specific
outcomes or documents that the Coastal Conservancy hopes
to produce with the budget allocation.
· · · · · · ·There is ecological indigenous and
recreational outcomes that I think we're pointed to in
all those plans.· And I think we're all hoping for and
we're also looking to see there is a timeline to produce
those particular documents.
· · · · · · ·So a little bit of a question, but
hopefully, we'll just find out where those answers come
in time.· And I do just want to thank Everybody, and
it's encouraging to have so many thoughtful folks
working on this truly generational project.
· · · · · · ·So thank you.
| Nature Conservancy | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Susan Harvey, H-A-R-V-E-Y.· I live in the
Creston area.· I represent the San Lucia Chapter of the
Sierra Club.· I want to thank you all for the
opportunity to speak this evening.
· · · · · · ·We support the Freinds of Diablo Canyon
reports that was issued a few years ago.· We support the
Conservation being placed on the lands before the land
ownership is transferred.
· · · · · · ·We support management by plurality.· By
Coalition of State, non-profit, and a plurality of
Tribal interests.· The easement should include
Public Access.· The Best Practices Management for
Preservation of Habitat Species and Archeological
Resources.
· · · · · · ·I think that about covers it.· I want to
thank you all again for your time.
| San Lucia Chapter of the Sierra Cllub | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Hi, my name is Kathleen Phelps.
I live in Arroyo Grande, and I'm with
Backcountry Horsemen in California.· The Los Padres
Unit.
· · · · · · ·My comments, one, had to do with the any
disbursals of the Diablo Lands, and I noticed on your
map early-on in the presentation that North Ranch has
scattered land parcels that are North of and within the
Cherry Canyon Ranch and that these isolated -- this
makes for some isolated and peninsula-type Parcels going
into the -- what would become State Lands if the
recommendations go through.
· · · · · · ·And there will be other ownership, and I
was a Land Manager and makes it very difficult to do
comprehensive land management when there is little
pieces of other ownership within the large mass of land.
· · · · · · ·So I'd suggest that you consider taking
those isolated peninsula parcels in that North Ranch
that are inland and putting them in with the massive
amount of Cherry Canyon Ranch Lands so that it's
consistent ownership from Montana de Oro South.
· · · · · · ·It would just make management a lot easier,
especially for any kind of trails that are being
created.· And then my other comment has to do with the
trails.· And I just encourage that both the coastal and
the inland trail that's being considered include
equestrian use as well as hikers or mountain bikers.
· · · · · · ·Thank you very much.
· · · · · · ·Oh, and you spell my name Phelps, like
Michael Phelps.
| Backcountry Horsemen | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good evening.
· · · · · · ·My name IS Mona Tucker, T-U-C-K-E-R, and
I'm calling from Arroyo Grande.· That's where live.
· · · · · · ·I'm the Tribal Chair of the
YTT Northern Chumash Tribe.· And CHUMASH is
C-H-U-M-A-S-H.
· · · · · · ·And as always, I'm only speaking for my
Tribe.· The members of my Tribe are documented as the
appropriate Historical Pre-colonialization First People
of Diablo Lands.
· · · · · · ·We were removed forcibly from our Lands and
many died as a result.· This was done without our
agreement, consideration or compensation.· The people
who are buried on Diablo Lands are my relatives.
· · · · · · ·We have been working for years to
re-acquire our land and that work continues.
· · · · · · ·We are excited to see these funds and their
stated purposes, as they are in alignment with the
proposal that our Tribe along with Land Conservancy of
San Luis Obispo County, Cal Poly, SLO and which
presented to the CNRA.
· · · · · · ·We are in favor of an economic development
on Parcel P but I want to say more about that and to
answer an earlier question and that's that our
Tribal Counsel and Tribal Members are opposed to a
casino.
· · · · · · ·However, I can't speak for any other Tribes
or Native groups and I don't know of their current or
future intentions.
· · · · · · ·We are in favor of Managed Public Access
but with consideration for Tribal values, places of
Cultural sensitivity, ceremonial places, cemeteries
teaser and cultural landscape.
· · · · · · ·The Tribe is also committed to the careful
planning to protect important plant and animal
co-habitats including offshore habitat for the ocean
people.
· · · · · · ·So I'll close by saying we're looking
forward to engaging with the research of the reports.
I'd like to say thank you to the Engagement Panel and to
all of the presenters.
· · · · · · ·This concludes my comments.
| YTT Northern Chumash Tribe | | |
| September 20, 2023 | Lands | Public comment presented during the September 20, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
Good evening.· Kelly Abbas,
A-B-B-A-S.· I'm representing Supervcisor Ortiz-Legg and I'll be sure to comment on her behalf
tonight.· She regrettably also cannot be here.
· · · · · · ·Good evening, trusted Officials and members
of the SLO County Community.· I first want to thank the
many volunteers who have participated and to PG&E for
managing the Diablo Canyon Commissioning Panel from
2018.· The intention of the
Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Panel were to serve as a
forum for local community members with a focus on
understanding and communicating the areas of interest
regarding the shutdown and Decommissioning.
· · · · · · ·The Panel's sole mission was to provide
information to the public and receiving public input.
These significant efforts have been extremely helpful
for our community even as we look forward to extension
of the Plan Operations.
· · · · · · ·Tonight the topic of Diablo Lands is
pertinent as we, the County of San Luis Obispo
recognizes this coming Friday as Native American Day.
We will honor the original people of the Americas, the
rich culture and acknowledge the horrific trauma of
displacements, diseases and wars that took place for
hundreds of years.
· · · · · · ·As so, these very Diablo Lands were Tribal
Homeland to the YTT.
· · · · · · ·In an odd way due to the location of
Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant, the surrounding
Diablo Lands have been nearly untouched for decades.
They are pristine as if time stopped.
· · · · · · ·The Land Stewardship and Management of
these Lands are PG&E, the Investor-Owned utility must
also be commended.· This land is breathtakingly gorgeous
and abundant with many resources.
· · · · · · ·If you look to the North at Montana de Oro
State Park there is a very significant difference in the
quality of the land.· We love our parks to the point
where we must consider all impacts on them.
· · · · · · ·The California Public Utilities Commission
Native American Policy also acknowledges the importance
of returning tribal lands to the original descendants
and providing a path to do so in State Resolution E 55
of76.
· · · · · · ·In addition, we must be mindful of the
utilities and their need to meet various agents, the
obligations among other responsibilities as well.
· · · · · · ·So as are Community engages in this
important discussion I respectfully ask you
consideration of these facts and to honor the work with
the YTT's people and to the Diablo Land's Pristine and
limit excessive public access.
· · · · · · ·Thank you.
| Supervisor Ortiz-Legg | | |
| August 24, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | Due to the increased electric power demand supplied by sources which burn fossil fuels, shutting down Diablo Canyon would necessarily result in a net increase in carbon emissions. I recognize the scope of this panel may well be limited to what impact decommissioning will have on the environment starting from a point where said decommissioning is a foregone certainty. However, it seems like this is relevant, nonetheless. I also recognize that calculating the full environmental impact of carbon emissions resulting from the loss of Diablo Canyon's capacity would be difficult. So all I suggest is that in addition to, say, analyzing for the possibility that the breakwater area be turned into a marina, you could also include *some* analysis of the effects which will result from increased greenhouse gases, too, to give decision-makers a bigger picture.
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| August 11, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | After reading the DCPP decommissioning report I felt a deep sadness followed by outrage. Continuing to operate the plant and to build even more toxic materials into our environment, leaving it to future generations to deal with, is outrageous. We need to stop this behavior and think about the futures of children yet to come.
Sincerely, Melinda Forbes
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| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
TINA DICKASON:· YES.· GOOD EVENING.· MY NAME IS
TINA DICKASON.· I AM A PRIVATE CITIZEN, AND I DWELL IN
CAMBRIA.· MANY REASONS, MANY JUSTIFIABLE REASONS, HAVE
BEEN VOICED AS TO WHY DIABLO CANYON NUCLEAR FACILITY
SHOULD BE DECOMMISSIONED, WHICH I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE
WITH.
· · · · · BUT IN ADDITION, A SERIOUS THREAT LOOMS OVER,
NOT JUST THE CENTRAL COAST, BUT FAR BEYOND.· I'M
REFERRING TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUES AND THE FACT
THAT NUCLEAR FACILITIES ARE VULNERABLE TO THREATS FROM
ADVERSARIAL COUNTRIES.· WE HAVE WITNESSED THIS WITH, IN
RUSSIA'S ATTACK IN UKRAINE, TWO NUCLEAR FACILITIES.
· · · · · I'M WONDERING WHY GOVERNOR NEWSOM AND
PRESIDENT BIDEN AREN'T -- THIS ISN'T BEING VOICED.· I'M
NOT REALLY HEARING THIS.· I HAVEN'T HEARD IT IN COMMENTS
REGARDING DIABLO CANYON, IF AT ALL.· THAT'S NOT TO SAY
THEY HAVEN'T BEEN MADE, BUT I THINK NOT ONLY IS IT ABOUT
OUR CENTRAL COAST, BUT WE ARE SO VULNERABLE BEING ON THE
PACIFIC COAST FROM ADVERSARIAL NATIONS.· I DON'T THINK I
NEED TO SAY WHO.· I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THEM.· BUT
THIS IS SUPER SERIOUS TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
· · · · · SO WHILE I ABSOLUTELY APPLAUD ALMOST ALL OF
THE COMMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD, THAT I'VE READ, I'VE NOT
HEARD THIS ITEM BROUGHT UP, BUT THIS IS A HUGE THREAT TO
HAVE IT SIT THERE.
· · · · · I LOOKED UP HOW LONG IT TOOK TO DECOMMISSION
SAN ONOFRE.· 8 YEARS.· WHY ARE WE TALKING 15 YEARS FOR
THIS ONE, AND AT SOME HUMONGOUS COST TO THE TAXPAYERS.
IT MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.· PG&E COULD PUT SOLAR
POWER ON EVERY HOUSE IN SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY AND
BEYOND FOR 19 OR MORE BILLION DOLLARS.
· · · · · SO I THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY COMMENTS AND
HAVING THIS PRESENTATION AND HEARING TONIGHT.
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| August 9, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
RYAN PICKERING:· THANK YOU.· MY NAME IS RYAN
PICKERING.· I'M A RESEARCHER AT UC BERKELEY STUDYING
DIABLO CANYON'S DECOMMISSIONING.· I WANT TO THANK THE
AUTHORS FOR THEIR EFFORT TO CREATE THIS DOCUMENT FOR THE
COMMUNITY AND CALIFORNIANS.
· · · · · I WANT TO POINT OUT AN ASPECT OF THE EIR THAT
I VIEW AS INCOMPLETE IN THE DRAFT EIR SECTION 4.6 TRIBAL
CULTURAL RESOURCES.· WE HAVE SEEN INCOMPLETE ANALYSIS OF
TRIBAL CULTURAL HISTORY.· SPECIFICALLY, THE LOCAL TRIBE
KNOWN AS YAK TITYU TITYU YAK TILHINI HAS DEMONSTRATED AN
EXCLUSIVE CLAIM TO THE REGION IN QUESTION AS ESTABLISHED
BY THE GENEALOGICAL STUDY KNOWN AS THE JOHNSON REPORT OF
2020.· THIS REPORT WAS SPURRED BY THE CHEW HEWI (PH.)
RESTORATION AWARD FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE IN 2018.
BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS SHOULD BE MENTIONED IN THE EIR
TO BE COMPLETE.
· · · · · FURTHERMORE, SECTION 4.6 SHOULD BE UPDATED TO
ACCURATELY REFLECT THE TRIBE'S FULL NAME, WHICH IS YAK
TITYU TITYU YAK TILHINI NORTHERN CHUMASH, AND RECOGNIZE
THE ANCESTRAL NAME OF CHEW HEWI SHOULD REPLACE THE
SPANISH COLONIAL TERM PECHO COAST.
· · · · · THE EIR SHOULD CLEARLY EXPRESS THAT ALL OF
DIABLO LANDS, FORMALLY KNOWN AS CHEW HEWI, ARE THE
ANCESTRAL HOMELANDS OF YAK TITYU TITYU YAK TILHINI.
· · · · · BY UPDATING THE DOCUMENT TO INCLUDE A MORE
ROBUST INDIGENOUS HISTORY, WE CAN AVOID DELAY AND
FURTHER HARM TO INDIGENOUS PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA.· THANK
YOU.
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| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
LORI WOLFE:· THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TONIGHT.
I'M LORI WOLFE, A BOARD MEMBER OF ALLIANCE FOR NUCLEAR
RESPONSIBILITY.
· · · · · I ADDRESS YOU TONIGHT, AS A PERSON SIMILAR TO
SOME OF YOU ON THIS ENGAGEMENT PANEL WITH DEEP ROOTS IN
THIS COUNTY.· I CAN'T IMAGINE LIVING ANYWHERE ELSE.· WE
HAVE A TREASURE HERE THAT DESERVES OUR BEST EFFORT AT
DECOMMISSIONING.· NOT THE MINIMUM STANDARDS SET BY THE
NRC, BUT THE RADIATION CLEANUP STANDARD THAT ACHIEVES
THE LOWEST DOSE-BASED LEVELS MEASURED BY MILLI-REMS PER
YEAR PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE NRC IN LICENSED
TERMINATION PLANS FOR COMMERCIAL NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS.
· · · · · THE BEST PRACTICES LEVEL OF 10 MILLI-REMS IS
WHAT THE STATES OF MAINE, NEW YORK, MASSACHUSETTS, AND
VERMONT, AS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, HAVE CHOSEN FOR
DECOMMISSIONING FOR POWER PLANTS IN THEIR STATES.
· · · · · OUR STATE HAS JURISDICTION TO DETERMINE THAT
RADIATION CLEANUP STANDARDS TO THE BEST PRACTICES LEVEL.
I FIND IT LUDICROUS THAT CALIFORNIA AND SAN LUIS OBISPO
COUNTY, AS THE LEAD AGENCY FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT, WOULD NOT INSIST ON 10 MILLI-REMS FOR THE DIABLO
CANYON PLANT DECOMMISSIONING.
· · · · · PG&E HAS ASSERTED AND OFFERED TESTIMONY OF THE
COST DIFFERENCE ON THE NRC MINIMUM LEVEL AND THE 10
MILLI-REMS LEVEL THAT FOUR OTHER STATES ARE CURRENTLY
USING, AND PG&E CONSIDERS IT VERY LIKELY THAT A LEVEL
BELOW 25 MILLI-REMS WILL BE ACHIEVED AT NO ADDITIONAL
COST TO CUSTOMERS.
· · · · · THE DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT AT
CHAPTER 410.3 IS DEFICIENT AND NOT USING THE BEST
PRACTICES RADIATION CLEANUP STANDARD, AND I ASK YOU, AS
THE DECOMMISSIONING ENGAGEMENT PANEL, TO RECOGNIZE THIS
DEFICIENCY BY MAKING YOUR OWN RECOMMENDATION FOR THE 10
MILLI-REMS STANDARD.
· · · · · THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING THIS.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | | |
| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
DAVID WEISSMAN:· GOOD EVENING.· DAVID WEISSMAN,
ALLIANCE FOR NUCLEAR RESPONSIBILITY.
· · · · · NEW YORK, MASSACHUSETTS, MAINE, AND VERMONT
HAVE EACH REQUIRED RADIATION CLEAN UP OF DECOMMISSIONED
NUCLEAR POWER PLANT TO ACHIEVE A 10 MILLI-REM PER YEAR
RATHER THAN RELY ON THE NRC'S DEFAULT STANDARD OF 25
MILLI-REM OF RESIDUAL RADIATION.
· · · · · PG&E HAS REFUSED TO EXPLAIN WHY IT BELIEVES
CALIFORNIA RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT EXPECT THE SAME LEVEL OF
PROTECTION OVER THE ONE-THOUSAND-YEAR PERIOD USED IN
CALCULATING THOSE RATES.· THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 10
MILLI-REMS AND 25 MILLI-REMS BECOMES A SUBSTANTIAL
AMOUNT OF RADIATION.
· · · · · PG&E HAS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AFTER THE
EXPIRATION OF DIABLO CANYON PARK'S 50 OPERATING
LICENSES, THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA WILL HAVE JURISDICTION
OVER THE SITE CONDITIONS, AND THE RADIATION CLEANUP THAT
WOULD BE REQUIRED IS NOT PREEMPTED BY THE NUCLEAR
REGULATORY COMMISSION.
· · · · · PG&E TOLD THE CPUC UNDER OATH THAT IT IS,
QUOTE, VERY LIKELY, END QUOTE, THAT THE DIABLO CANYON
SITE WILL BE REMEDIATED TO A LEVEL BELOW 25 MILLI-REM
WITH NO ADDITIONAL COST TO CUSTOMERS, BUT IT REFUSES TO
BE HELD TO A SPECIFIC TARGET BELOW 25 MILLI-REMS.
· · · · · NOBLE INTENTIONS ARE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR
RIGOROUS AND ENFORCEABLE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.· AFTER
SIGNIFICANT PRESSURE, PG&E ACHIEVED A
POST-DECOMMISSIONING LEVEL OF 6 MILLI-REMS AT THE
HUMBOLDT BAY POWER PLANT.· PG&E HAS REFUSED TO EXPLAIN
WHY THE RESIDENTS OF SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY ARE NOT
ENTITLED TO THE SAME LEVEL OF EFFORT IN RADIATION
CLEANUP THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO THE RESIDENTS OF
HUMBOLDT COUNTY.
· · · · · AND FINALLY, THE CRYSTAL RIVER PLANT, NUCLEAR
PLANT, IN FLORIDA, IS UNDERGOING DECOMMISSIONING NOW AND
WILL BE USING THE DEFAULT NRC 25 MILLI-REM RADIATION
CLEANUP LEVEL.
· · · · · OUR GOVERNOR NEWSOM HAS TOURED THE NATION AND
FLORIDA, BOASTING CALIFORNIA'S RECORD OF ENVIRONMENTAL
REGULATIONS AND LEADERSHIP, AND YET, CALIFORNIA
DECOMMISSIONING REACTOR SITES ARE SLATED TO BE LEFT NO
CLEANER THAN THE ONES IN FLORIDA.· WOULD GOVERNOR NEWSOM
REALLY EMBRACE THE SAME APPROACH TO NUCLEAR CLEANUP AS
GOVERNOR DESANTIS?· THAT SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING
DEBATE.
· · · · · THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | | |
| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
ROCHELLE BECKER:· YES.· THIS IS ROCHELLE BECKER OF
THE ALLIANCE -- (CONTINUED INAUDIBLE.)
· · · · · I KNOW THAT SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE SPOKEN TO THE
10 MILLI-REMS STANDARDS TONIGHT AND THAT YOU HAVE A VERY
LARGE EIR TO READ, BUT I ASK THIS COMMITTEE READ THE
DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE FILED AT THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION AS PARTICIPANTS IN THE PUBLIC UTILITIES
COMMISSION'S CASE ON DIABLO CANYON.· THEY HAVE LEGAL
CITATIONS TO THE 10 MILLI-REMS STANDARD, AND IT WOULD
BEHOOVE THIS COMMITTEE TO READ OUR DOCUMENT, WHICH IS
MUCH SMALLER THAN THE EIR, AND I THINK YOU WOULD LEARN A
GREAT DEAL ABOUT THE STANDARDS AND WHY THEY WERE
SUBMITTED AND ACCEPTED BY FOUR OTHER STATES IN THIS
COUNTRY.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | | |
| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
JILL ZAMEK:· HI.· I'M JILL ZAMEK.· Z-A-M-E-K. I
LIVE IN ARROYO GRANDE.· CLEARLY, THE DECOMMISSIONING AND
DISMANTLING OF DIABLO CANYON WILL CREATE SIGNIFICANT AND
DISTURBING ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IN THE OCEAN, ON THE
LAND, AND IN THE AIR.· BUT SO DOES CONTINUED OPERATION
WITH THE ADDED RISK OF A CATASTROPHIC RADIOLOGICAL
RELEASE.· I DON'T SEE ANY BENEFIT IN DELAYING THE
INEVITABLE DECONSTRUCTION, AND I SUPPORT DECOMMISSIONING
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH NO EXTENDED OPERATIONS. I
ADVOCATE FOR THE GREATEST CARE IN THE STORAGE AND
TRANSPORT OF RADIOLOGICAL MATERIALS.· MITIGATION
TECHNIQUES WHEN DEMOLISHING THE OCEAN STRUCTURES AND THE
MORE STRINGENT REMEDIATION THRESHOLD OF 10 MILLI-REMS A
YEAR RATHER THAN THE 25 THAT HAS BEEN SUGGESTED.
· · · · · I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT A MINOR ERROR
IN APPENDIX G1-1.· THERE'S A REFERENCE TO UNITS 2 AND 3,
WHICH SHOULD READ UNITS 1 AND 2.· THANK YOU.
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| August 9, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
MY NAME IS MONA TUCKER.· I'M THE CHAIR OF THE
YAK TITYU TITYU YAK TILHINI NORTHERN CHUMASH TRIBE WITH
SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY AND REGION, AND I'M A RESIDENT OF
ARROYO GRANDE.
· · · · · THANK YOU TO THE EIR TEAM FOR THEIR WORK AND
TO THE ENGAGEMENT PANEL FOR TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. I
AM A MEMBER OF, AND I REPRESENT FAMILIES WHO ARE THE
DOCUMENTED DESCENDENTS OF THE VILLAGES OF THE COAST.
THE VILLAGES THERE ARE OUR VILLAGES.· THE PEOPLE WHO ARE
BURIED THERE ARE OUR RELATIVES, AND WITHOUT THEM, WE
DON'T EXIST.
· · · · · MY POINT TONIGHT THOUGH, IS THAT I WANT TO
BRING ATTENTION TO THE SLIDE DISCUSSION THAT STATED THAT
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS OF CULTURAL TRIBAL
RESOURCES THAT CANNOT BE MITIGATED.· I AGREE WITH THAT.
· · · · · BUT THEN THERE WAS ALSO A BRIEF MENTION OF
VARIOUS ACTIVITIES THAT WOULD TAKE PLACE REGARDING THESE
IMPACTS TO CULTURAL AND TRIBAL RESOURCES.· BUT THE
IMPORTANT POINT THAT I WANT TO MAKE TO EVERYONE
LISTENING TONIGHT SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NO
MISUNDERSTANDING THAT A MONITORING PLAN AND MONITORING
ACTIVITIES ARE NOT MITIGATION.
· · · · · SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO MENTION TONIGHT.
THE IMPACTS TO CULTURAL AND TRIBAL RESOURCES CANNOT BE
MITIGATED.· THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME.
| Yak Tityu Tityu Yak Tilhini Northern Chumash Tribe | | |
| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
JEFFREY BARKDULL:· JEFFREY BARKDULL.· RESIDENT OF
CALIFORNIA.· I KNOW.· SORRY IF I PAUSE A BIT, BUT I HAVE
HIGH-FUNCTIONING AUTISM, FIRST OFF, SO HAVE A LITTLE
PATIENCE WITH ME.
· · · · · NOW, I WANT TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF STUFF ABOUT
THIS, BUT MY MAIN POINT IS TO SHUT DOWN DIABLO CANYON.
I DID SOME RESEARCH, AND HERE'S 7 REASONS WHY NUCLEAR
ENERGY IS NOT THE ANSWER TO SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE.· FOR
ONE, THERE'S A LONG TIME LAG BETWEEN PLANNING AND
OPERATION.· 2, COST.· 3, WEAPONS PROLIFERATING RISK.
MELTDOWN RISK, WHICH I'LL BE TALKING ABOUT LATER.
MINING LUNG CANCER RISK.· CARBON EQUIVALENT EMISSIONS
AND AIR POLLUTION AND WASTE RISK.· ALL-IN-ALL, THAT'S A
SIGN THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE DOING NUCLEAR POWER.
· · · · · SURE, MIGHT HAVE HELPED BENEFIT US DURING THE
COLD WAR TO MOVE AWAY FROM NUCLEAR WEAPONS, BUT NOW IT'S
OUTLIVED ITS PURPOSE, AND WE SHOULD MOVE AWAY FROM IT.
· · · · · TELL ME, HAVE ANY OF YOU EVER HEARD THE STORY
OF HISASHI OUCHI?· THAT'S A QUESTION, BY THE WAY.
ANYONE?
· · · UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:· NO ONE HAS.
· · · JEFFREY BARKDULL:· HE'S ALSO KNOWN AS ONE OF THE
MOST RADIOACTIVE MAN IN THE WORLD.· HE'S FROM THE 1999
RADIATION INCIDENT IN JAPAN WHEN THAT JAPANESE WORKER
SUFFERED WHILE WORKING ON AN EXPERIMENTAL REACTOR.· HE
GOT EXACTLY 17 SIEVERTS OF RADIATION.· IT WAS BAD.· IF
ANYONE GOT THAT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL JUST PUT A BULLET IN
YOUR HEAD BECAUSE THE PAIN THAT HE WENT THROUGH, IT WAS
AGONIZING.· IT'S ALMOST LIKE GOING THROUGH THE EBOLA
VIRUS.
· · · · · HE HAD SEVERE PAIN THAT ENGULFED HIM, AND HE
COULD BARELY BREATHE.· WHEN HE ARRIVED AT THE HOSPITAL,
HE VOMITED VIOLENTLY AND FELL UNCONSCIOUS.· HE HAD
RADIATION BURNS COVERING HIS ENTIRE BODY AND BLOOD
LEAKING FROM HIS EYES.· THE MOST SEVERE PROBLEM WAS HIS
LACK OF WHITE BLOOD CELLS AND INABILITY TO FIGHT
INFECTIONS.· THE DOCTORS PLACED HIM IN A SPECIAL WARD TO
AVOID INFECTION AND EVALUATE HIS INTERNAL ORGAN DAMAGE.
· · · UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER:· MR. BARKDULL, THAT'S OUR
THREE MINUTES.
· · · JEFFREY BARKDULL:· OKAY.· WELL, THAT'S THE POINT.
IF THE DIABLO CANYON PLANT BLEW AND CONTAMINATED US,
WE'D BE LOOKING AT A FATE WORSE THAN DEATH.· YOU GET THE
IDEA, RIGHT?
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| August 9, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
CHRIS BERMAN:· GOOD EVENING.· MY NAME IS CHRIS. I
LIVE IN GROVER BEACH.· MOST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY
THANK YOU, EVERYONE, SO MUCH FOR ALL THE TIME AND ENERGY
YOU'VE PUT INTO THIS.· IT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WORK.
JUST THE SLIDE SHOW IS REALLY OVERWHELMING.· SO PLEASE
APPRECIATE HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE WHEN I
SAY I HOPE WE DON'T NEED IT.· I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S
ANY POINT IN ME MAKING THIS COMMENT, BUT I'M HERE, SO I
MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT.
· · · · · THE BIGGEST ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT IN
DECOMMISSIONING DIABLO CANYON WOULD BE ALL THAT
ELECTRICITY WOULD HAVE TO COME FROM, CURRENTLY, COME
FROM CARBON POLLUTION-PRODUCING SOURCES.· IT'S ONLY
GOING TO GET BIGGER.· WE'RE ALREADY SEEING THE EFFECTS
OF GLOBAL WARMING.· MORE AIR CONDITIONERS ARE BEING
USED, ET CETERA, AND TEMPERATURES ARE GETTING HIGHER.
SO POWER USAGE IS ONLY GOING TO GO UP.
· · · · · THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT ALL NEW VEHICLE
SALES BY 2035 WILL BE ZERO EMISSIONS, SO THAT WILL BE
ANOTHER SOURCE OF INCREASED POWER DEMAND.
· · · · · I REALLY, REALLY HOPE THAT EVENTUALLY, THERE
WILL BE NO NUCLEAR OR CARBON-EMITTING SOURCES OF POWER,
BUT THAT'S A VERY LONG TIME FROM NOW, AND WE MIGHT NOT
EVEN GET THERE IF WE CAN'T GET OUR CARBON EMISSIONS
UNDER CONTROL.· I'LL GO AHEAD AND SUBMIT THIS UNDER THE
OFFICIAL MEANS.· I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH OF AN IMPACT IT
WILL HAVE.· I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WOULD BE LIKE, HEY,
WE'VE REVIEWED IT, AND WE RECOMMEND NOT DECOMMISSIONING
AT ALL.· PLEASE CONTINUE.
· · · · · I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A THING OR NOT, BUT I'M
HERE, AND I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT YOU'VE DONE, AND
I WANTED TO STILL OFFER MY COMMENT ANYWAY.
· · · · · ALSO, I AM NOT A SPOKESPERSON.· IGNORE THE
SHIRT.· I JUST CAME FROM WORK.· I'M A PRIVATE CITIZEN
HERE.
· · · · · THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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| August 9, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
CARL WURTZ:· THANK YOU, CHUCK.· I'M CARL WURTZ IN
BURBANK, REPRESENTING FISSIONTRANSITION.· AN EARLIER
COMMENTER ASKED INNOCENTLY WHETHER OR NOT CLOSING DIABLO
CANYON WAS A THING.· I WANTED TO LET HIM KNOW THAT, YES,
IN FACT, NOT CLOSING DIABLO IS A THING.
· · · · · SPECIFICALLY, ON SUSAN'S SLIDE OF POSSIBLE
ALTERNATIVES, THERE WAS A NO-PROJECT ALTERNATIVE THAT
WASN'T ADDRESSED.· AS ADVOCATE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND
SUPPORTERS OF CONTINUED OPERATION OF DIABLO CANYON,
FISH'N TRANSMISSION WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THE COUNTY AND
OTHER AGENCIES THAT EVALUATION OF THIS ALTERNATIVE IS A
REQUIREMENT OF ANY EIR UNDER THE CALIFORNIA
ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.· THAT IF THE PLANT IS
PERMANENTLY DECOMMISSIONED, WHAT THE RESULTING
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT WOULD BE, INCLUDING ANY IMPACTS ON
CO2 EMISSIONS.
· · · · · GIVEN THE SHUTDOWNS OF SAN ONOFRE AND IN NEW
YORK AND OTHERS HAVE RESULTED IN SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES
IN CO2 EMISSIONS, ANY FAILURE TO CONSIDER THE MANDATORY
NO-PROJECT ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE AND
UNLAWFUL UNDER THE TERMS OF CEQA.
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| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
BETTY WINHOLDS:· MY NAME IS BETTY WINHOLDS.· I'M
FROM MORRO BAY.· I'M JUST A PRIVATE CITIZEN WHO SAT
THROUGH THE VERY LONG PRESENTATION.· IT'S SO TRAUMATIC
TO HEAR ABOUT ALL OF THE IMPACTS THAT WILL NOT BE
MITIGATED OR NOT MITIGATED WELL.· BUT I AM CONCERNED, AS
I ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, ABOUT THE RADIATION, AND THE
COMMENTS THAT WERE SPOKEN EARLIER BY THE EARLIER
SPEAKERS IN TERMS OF WHETHER TO GO WITH THE 25 OR THE
10.· I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU -- SINCE MY TESTIMONY,
WHICH I DID NOT KNOW WOULD NOT BE SIGNIFICANT THIS
EVENING AND PASSED ON TO THE EIR, I HOPE THAT YOURS WILL
BE AND THAT YOU WILL RECOMMEND THAT EITHER SENATOR LAIRD
OR THE LEGISLATURE OR THE GOVERNOR REQUIRE THE 10
THROUGH LEGISLATION OR THAT PG&E PICK UP THE MANTLE AND
DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOLUNTARILY GIVE THEMSELVES THE
LIMIT OF THE 10.· TO NOT DO SO IS UNACCEPTABLE TO THOSE
OF US WHO LIVE HERE.· THANK YOU.
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| August 9, 2023 | Safety | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
MARTY BROWN:· MY NAME IS MARTY BROWN, AND I'VE
LIVED IN ATASCADERO SINCE 1972.· IF DECOMMISSIONING
TAKES PLACE AS AGREED UPON IN 2018, IT WILL TAKE 14
YEARS TO DISMANTLE, DEMOLISH, DECONTAMINATE, AND RESTORE
THE PLANT PROPERTY.
· · · · · WHY HAS THE NRC OR THE CPUC NOT REQUIRED THE
SAME LEVEL OF PROTECTION FOR RESIDUAL RADIATION AS
REQUIRED IN FOUR OTHER REACTOR STATES?· WE MUST DEMAND
THAT HIGHER STANDARD.
· · · · · ACCORDING TO PG&E, THIS REMEDIATION CAN BE
DONE WITHOUT ADDING TO THE COST.· MY CHILDREN AND
GRANDCHILDREN WILL BE PAYING FOR THIS, AND IF THIS
EXTENSION GOES THROUGH, THAT WILL RAISE THE COSTS AND
RISKS EXPONENTIALLY.
· · · · · AND I'D LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION.· HAS THERE
BEEN A PERMANENT REPOSITORY FOR THE HIGH-LEVEL
RADIOACTIVE WASTE?· IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF
TRUCKING GOING ON.· IT SEEMS LIKE THE WASTE IS GOING TO
BE STRANDED HERE, AND IT'S A RADIOLOGICAL HAZARD THAT
WILL BE OUR LEGACY FOR CENTURIES.· THE VALUE OF HEALTH
AND OUR ENVIRONMENT IS PRICELESS.· SO STOP THE EXTENSION
AND CONTINUE DECOMMISSIONING THAT PG&E HAS ALREADY
BEGUN.· THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
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| August 9, 2023 | Environmental Impacts | Public comment presented during the August 9, 2023 Engagement Panel Meeting:
· · · CATHY DEWBERRY:· MY NAME IS CATHY DEWBERRY.· I'M A
SAN LUIS RESIDENT.· I'VE BEEN LIVING HERE OVER 40 YEARS.
FIRST, I WANTED TO SAY TO SUSAN THAT I DID RECOGNIZE
THAT FACE IN THE INTAKE, A SCARY FACE OF A FISH KILLER,
BECAUSE I KNOW HOW MANY FISH THAT INTAKE KILLS.
· · · · · OVER 40 YEARS, BACK IN THE '80S, I WENT
THROUGH A LOT OF PG&E'S LER, LICENSE EVENT REPORTS,
SHOWING WHAT THEY REPORTED WAS RADIATION-CONTAMINATED
FISH FOUND OFF THE PORT SAN LUIS, CCM137 FOUND IN THEM.
CCM137 FOUND AT CAL POLY AND PUMPKIN GREEN.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY DON'T DO THESE REPORTS ANYMORE, SO
PEOPLE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT'S OUT THERE.
· · · · · BUT I KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS,
RADIATION HAS BEEN SPEWED AND VENTED ON A REGULAR BASIS,
AND THE WHOLE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS CONTAMINATED, AND THERE
ARE HIGH LEVELS OF RADIOACTIVE WASTE ONSITE, SO OUR
COASTLAND HAS BECOME A RADIOACTIVE WASTE DUMP.· AND THEN
THE THOUGHT OF TRANSPORTING IT SOMEWHERE TO CONTAMINATE
OUR TRASH THAT WE'VE CREATED -- WELL, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE
BECAUSE I WASN'T PART OF CREATING THAT TRASH, BUT I ALSO
THINK, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GUYS TAKE INTO
CONSIDERATION THAT AN INDEPENDENT STUDY IS BEING DONE ON
THE CONTAMINATION ON THAT PROPERTY.
· · · · · AND AS WELL, IT DOESN'T TAKE A WHOLE LOT OF
RADIATION TO CREATE CANCER.· SO THE LEVELS THAT YOU ARE
ASKING US TO LIVE WITH IS UNACCEPTABLE, AND IT'S
APPROPRIATE THAT WE'RE HAVING THIS MEETING ON AUGUST
9TH, WHICH IS THE ANNIVERSARY OF NAGASAKI, AND WHAT WE
DID TO THE JAPANESE WHEN WE DROPPED AN ATOMIC BOMB,
NUCLEAR.
· · · · · SO THOSE RODS AND THOSE CONTAMINATED
RADIOACTIVITIES ON THE SITE IS EQUIVALENT TO MANY MORE
BOMBS THAN THE ONES THAT WERE DROPPED IN NAGASAKI AND
HIROSHIMA.· SO I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO THINK ABOUT THAT.
PG&E WANTS TO PRETEND LIKE IT'S DISNEYLAND AND PEOPLE
SHOULD COME TO THIS BEAUTIFUL PART OF CALIFORNIA, WHEN
IT REALLY IS A CONTAMINATED SITE.· AND I THINK YOU
SHOULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.· AND I, TOO, AGREE
WITH THE FACT THAT IT SHOULD BE DECOMMISSIONED TO THE
UTMOST CLEANLINESS, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE OPERATED AND
CONTINUED TO AS IT HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 40 YEARS.
· · · · · AS WELL TO THE PERSON WHO SAID THERE'S GOING
TO BE INCREASED ENERGY, AND IT'S NOT A CARBON, IT'S NOT
MAKING A CARBON FOOTPRINT:· WELL, IF WE WEREN'T SO
SELFISH AND WE CAN CONSERVE, WE WOULDN'T NEED AS MUCH
POWER AS WE DO.
· · · · · BACK IN THE '80S, THERE WAS A PROFESSOR THAT
SAID THAT IF WE ALL USED CLOTHESPINS TO DRY OUR CLOTHES,
WE COULD TURN OFF UNIT 1, AND IF WE ALL STOPPED USING
OUR HAIR DRYERS AND OUR DRYERS, WE COULD TURN OFF UNIT
2, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
· · · · · THANK YOU.
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| August 9, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | If decommissioning takes place as agreed upon in 2018, it will take 14 years to dismantle, demolish, decontaminate and restore the plant property. My children and grandchildren will be paying for this, and if this extension of licensing goes
through, that will raise the costs and risks exponentially.
AND the waste will be a radiological hazard for centuries that will be our legacy. Why has the NRC not required the same
level of protection from residual radiation as required in four other reactor states. We must demand that higher standard.
According to PG&E this remediation could be done without adding to the cost. The value of health of our environment is priceless.
STOP THE EXTENSION AND CONTINUE THE DECOMMISSIONING THAT PG&E HAS ALREADY BEGUN.
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| August 4, 2023 | Other | I would like to voice my concerns about decommissioning Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant. In light of the powe it produces cleanly,and the amount which is significant,in my opinion it should remain open and in use. California's power grid hasn't been sufficiently updated as with brown outs and outages to supply our present needs nor will solar and wind reliably be able to in the future. Also the desalination plant is necessary for San Luis Obispo city and county use. There's safe and reliable reuse of waste and disposal without harm to the environment,endangered birds,and sea life. Please keep it operational.
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| August 3, 2023 | Other | Testing comment and notification system
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| May 8, 2023 | Other | Is the DEP going to produce a Video of the May 3rd Meeting ?
Please respond.
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| May 4, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | Where can I find the Charts that were presented during the Wednesday, May 3rd NRC Public Meeting.
| Avila Valley Advisory Council | | |
| March 3, 2023 | Spent Fuel Storage | What is your plan if the grid goes down for an extensive period of time, due to an EMP attack by Russia or China? What assumptions about the grid are you making in your assessment? There is some likelihood that if this occurs, the land around this plant, the wildlife, and the humans living nearby, possibly many miles away, will be harmed or killed if this contingency occurs. You owe the public answers, including how long you assume the supporting grid will be down if there is an EMP attack. Extending the life of this plant may look like a solution for the problem of an “unreliable” grid, but if this type of attack occurs, one will quickly realize the magnitude and scope of the error in that decision.
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| February 27, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | Comments of the Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility in response to the release of CNRA report on actions needed to extend the operation of Diablo Canyon.
| Alliance for Nuclear Responsibility | 022723-A4NR-CNRA-Comments-on-SB846-Report.pdf | |
| February 23, 2023 | Proposed Extension of DCPP Operations | Do not decommission. Keep it running and built a nuclear powered desal plant at the site.
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