Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Engagement Panel

Public Comments

DateDecommissioning TopicComment / Suggestion:Group Affiliation, if any (Optional)Link to Web Page or Online FileUploaded File 1Uploaded File 2
July 26, 2018Economic Impacts

I heard from a PG&E employee, who is very concerned about the early shut-down of the plant, prior to the licenses expiring. His career is dependent upon the plant’s operation for several more years, and he has planned his retirement accordingly.

July 26, 2018Lands

The League of Women Voters of San Luis Obispo just passed a resolution, urging the conservation of all the Diablo Lands, including Wild Cherry Canyon. Please see the attached resolution.

League of Women Voters of San Luis Obispogoogle.com
July 26, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

I want to express 3 general thoughts I have regarding DCPP decommissioning.
First, there is absolutely no technical reason that DCPP can not obtain a 20 year extension on the power plant.

In my opinion, the main driver to not seek license extension is a California law prohibiting “surface intake” of ocean water, which leads to problematic circumstances to re-obtain a States Lands Commission for DCPP’s intake system. To make it brief, I believe the court system would rule in favor of the existing DCPP’s intake system due to “grand-fathering”, historical “taking” studies, and continual use.

Secondly, I believe there needs to be a serious discussion regarding utilizing the existing intake for a desalination plant.

For the 3rd and most controversial, but in my opinion, the most important. I believe it is in the best interest of California to seriously entertain the concept that DCPP be converted to an Interim Nuclear Spent Fuel Storage Facillity. That is, to re-fit both DCPP’s containment structures to house the spent fuel relocated from the DCPP dry cask storage area, the PG&E Humbolt Bay ‘safe store’ spent fuel area, the San Onofre power plant, and the Rancho Seco [Sacramento area] power plant. That basically means that the DOE (Dept of Energy) takes ownership of the site.

July 26, 2018Lands

I have lived in San Luis Obispo County for several decades. I am a Cal Poly professor and my wife is a labor and delivery nurse at Sierra Vista. We are raising our three young children here in San Luis Obispo. We have worked incredibly hard to pull together two incomes to constitute a livable wage that allows us to survive and thrive here. We implore you to protect and conserve all of Wild Cherry Canyon. Conserve it for public use and access, only. Please do not let this special area turn into another Central Coast development. Once it’s gone, we will never get it back. You know that, I know that, we all know that. Please protect this special area for our future generations.

SLO Resident
July 26, 2018Lands

This is an amazing ecological preserved natural area that could be a diamond for the central coast. Protect this natural space and make it available to the public in an environmentally sensitive way

July 25, 2018Decommissioning Funding

William Toman, Los Osos, CA

5 MR. TOMAN: Thank you very much. It's really
6 just a question. I'm Bill Toman from Los Osos. How can
7 PG&E and the Utility Commission reconcile the very, very
8 large differences in the decommissioning cost estimates
9 between San Onofre and Diablo Canyon?

Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Public Engagement Panel
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10 As you noted, they're very similar in many,
11 many, many measures, similar size, similar volumes of
12 concrete to be removed, similar vintage, the State of
13 California regulation. Same, same, same, same, same,
14 but there's a very large difference between the cost
15 estimates. It seems that there's a justification in
16 SONGS for the much higher cost estimate.
17 MR. FRANKE: Yeah. I think Eric can probably
18 do a great job answering that.
19 MR. NELSON: I think you exactly described the
20 burden that we have with respect to the 2018 NDCTP.
21 It's up to PG&E to be able to make the case for what the
22 right amount of funds for decommissioning are and to be
23 able to clearly articulate that to the CPUC to have a
24 convincing case and such they agree with us and adjust
25 rates accordingly.
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1 So that's really our obligation and that's what
2 we've spent all the time doing the site-specific
3 decommissioning cost estimate and getting external
4 experts for is to be able to better articulate and
5 document the activities that are going to be required to
6 decommission the plant.
7 MR. TOMAN: Right. So as a follow-up, so the
8 proposed decision of the administrative law judge that
9 rejected the increase in the Diablo decommissioning cost
10 last year was because it wasn't properly justified as
11 opposed to the lower amount has been calculated to be
12 the correct number.
13 MR. NELSON: What I would say is that the judge
14 identified what she felt was the appropriate amount that
15 had been justified by PG&E for decommissioning and it is
16 our obligation to do better this time and to address the
17 issues that the judge specifically called out for those
18 areas where we didn't provide in her dramatic
19 documentation of justification for those additional
20 laws.
21 MR. TOMAN: Right. And in the past, because
22 the joint proposal had not been arrived at, PG&E had not
23 gone beyond generic studies to get your estimate and now
24 you're taking it very serious about a very precise
25 estimation of the total cost.

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1 MR. NELSON: I wouldn't use exactly those
2 terms, but yes. I would say we were already well along
3 the way and we will meet the deadline. So we have been
4 actively working with industry experts on that, taking
5 very sharp notice of the specific areas where we did not
6 get the exact funding that we had requested and we are
7 going after those.
8 MR. TOMAN: And, finally, a question. In the
9 2.5 billion dollar cost estimate, does that include the
10 removal of all the lines out to the central valley, out
11 to midway and gates?
12 MR. NELSON: No. I don't believe it did in
13 that one in particular.
14 MR. TOMAN: But will that be -- in other words,
15 will those transmission lines be removed after 2025?
16 MR. JONES: No. They will remain in place.
17 They are important infrastructure for the transmission
18 capability of PG&E and the central coast.
19 MR. TOMAN: Okay. And that will go all the way
20 from the Diablo swish yard out to --
21 MR. JONES: They will not be removed. You're
22 correct.
23 MR. TOMAN: Okay. Thank you.

July 23, 2018Lands

I’ve had multiple electronic exchanges with representatives of the Land Conservancy of San Luis Obispo. They are interested in the future of the Diablo Lands and would like to make a presentation during the land workshops as well as during the public hearing.

The Land Conservancy of San Luis Obispo County
July 19, 2018Lands

Friends of Wild Cherry Canyon is submitting this position paper filed with PG&E in 2016.

Friends of Wild Cherry Canyongoogle.com
July 18, 2018Lands

I have met with the Avila Valley Advisory Council and they have been, and continue to be, strong supporters of the conservation of the Diablo Canyon Lands, including Wild Cherry Canyon. AVAC has endorsed a formal resolution to this effect, which is attached here.

Avila Valley Advisory Councilgoogle.com
July 18, 2018Lands

I have met with the SLO Democrats Club and they are very interested in the conservation of the Diablo Lands and public access as consistent with resource protection. The group has formally endorsed a resolution encouraging a conservation outcome for the lands, and it is attached here.

google.com
July 18, 2018Lands

I have attended multiple meetings with members of the Concerned Citizens 4 Avila, who are interested in the conservation of the Diablo Lands, and public access consistent with resource protection and the continuation of their quality of life in the community of Avila Beach and beyond. They are interested in exploring making a presentation during the workshops in August. They have signed a resolution urging the conservation of the Diablo Lands, which is submitted here.

google.com
July 18, 2018Lands

Friends of Wild Cherry Canyon was formed to promote the conservation of, and public access to, Wild Cherry Canyon, but has since increased its interest in conserving all of the Diablo Lands, consistent with the 2000 Measure A advisory measure which was endorsed by the County of SLO and PG&E. FOWCC maintains an active Facebook site under that name, where updates on the Diablo Lands, Wild Cherry Canyon, and other areas of conservation interest are continually posted and updated. They would like to make a formal, detailed presentation at the August workshops outlining a vision for the land that ensures its conservation and public access consistent with the protection of ecological, cultural, open space, and scenic resources.

Attached are historic letters of support for the conservation of Wild Cherry Canyon.

Friends of Wild Cherry Canyongoogle.com
July 18, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

I have had several conversations with The Marine Mammal Center, SLO Operations. They are interested in exploring the creation of a new rescue/rehab/ research facility for marine mammals on Parcel P, including the intake/discharge coves. They are exploring a partnership with Cal Poly and Pacific Wildlife Care. They would like to make a presentation at the September workshops. Three panel members have toured their existing, small/triage facility in Morro Bay and more tours will be scheduled.

July 18, 2018Lands

I have had several conversations with representatives of the Sierra Club, Santa Lucia Chapter. They are very interested in the disposition of all of the Diablo Lands and hope to make a specific presentation during the August workshops. They have suggestions regarding the conservation of the lands, appropriate public access, and protection of natural and cultural -- including Chumash -- resources.

July 18, 2018Lands

I have had multiple electronic communications with representatives of the Central Coast Concerned Mountain Bikers. They are interested in the disposition of the Diablo Lands and wish to see them conserved and made available for public access, including a multiple use, coastal trail linking Avila Beach to Morro Bay. They would like to make a detailed presentation to the Panel during the August workshops.

July 18, 2018Lands

I have had multiple electronic communications with representatives from equestrian groups who are interested in the disposition of the Diablo Lands. They are interested in the conservation of the Diablo Lands as well as public access, including a coastal trail connecting Avila Beach to Montana de Oro, which would be multi-use and allow for equestrian use in particular. They are interested in making a presentation during the August workshops.

July 18, 2018Lands

I have had multiple electronic communications with a representative of SLOPOST, an entity that supports conservation of Wild Cherry Canyon and the Diablo Lands, and is interested in possibly making a presentation during the August workshops regarding public access and a coastal hiking and other use trail through the Irish Hills.

July 18, 2018Lands

The Cayucos Citizens Advisory Council has expressed their strong support for the conservation of all of the Diablo Lands. They formally adopted the attached resolution.

google.com
July 16, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

I have had multiple discussions with the Marine Mammal Center, which is interested in exploring the possibility of reusing facilities on Parcel P (including intake cove) to create a full-service marine mammal rescue and rehabilitation hospital and research facility, possibly in connection with Cal Poly. In addition, we have held a tour and three Engagement Panel members have visited the existing, small triage facility in Morro Bay and additional tours are planned. MMC will request the opportunity to prepare a presentation during the September workshops.

July 13, 2018Lands

Please see following file from Avila Valley Advisory Council

google.com
July 11, 2018Transportation Impacts

Concern about the transportation and storage of nuclear waste. Also very concerned about trucking all the concrete and waste through the narrow, 2 lane street out of Avila Beach. What if there is an accident? How will this impact emergency vehicles coming in and out of Avila Beach? What about vehicle emissions and pollution?

Heron Crest HOA
July 3, 2018Lands

The American Woodland Conservancy would like to express our strong support of the conservation -- and public access as appropriate to maintain plant safety and security -- of the 12,000 acres surrounding the power plant, including Wild Cherry Canyon. We have adopted a formal resolution to this affect and align ourselves with the multiple other organizations and individuals along the Central Coast who support conservation, and not development, of the Diablo Lands. This is consistent with the will of the voters in the 2000 Dream Initiative.

American Woodland Conservancy
June 27, 2018Other

I attended the public meeting of June 27, and asked two questions at public comment time. When I sat down after speaking, the moderator started to move on to the next agenda item. Frank Meecham, member of the Panel, kindly suggested that someone should respond to my questions. I greatly appreciate that he spoke up, and PG&E did respond with answers that were informative. Based on this experience, I have two suggestions for future meetings: (1) all public comments or questions should be given a response before moving on to next agenda items; (2) at the meeting evaluation time, after members of the panel give input it would be a plus to invite members of the public who had been present to give their input also. The suggestions above are not intended to convey general criticism of the meeting. On the contrary, as I stated before asking my questions, I was impressed by the clarity and organization of the meeting, by PG&E's slides and verbal presentations, and by the level of knowledge and the quality of the questions and comments made by the Panel members.

San Luis Obispo Mothers for Peace
June 27, 2018Economic Impacts

Loreli Cappel

14 MS. CAPEL: Great. My name Loreli Capel. I'm
15 with Economic Vitality Corporation, 735 Tank Farm Road.
16 Thank you for having me this evening, and thank
17 you all for your time that you're committing to this very
18 important project. We really appreciate your community
19 service.
20 I just wanted to introduce myself and let you
21 know that the Economic Vitality Corporation, which is a
22 501c3 nonprofit, is, you know, here specifically with the
23 last 25 years helping start and grow business on the
24 Central Coast really to ensure the economic vitality of
25 our region. We are working with community stakeholders in

Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Public Engagement Panel
June 27, 2018 Panel Meeting
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1 a public/private partnership for the analysis and strategy
2 for the planning -- for the economic planning of the
3 Diablo power plant closure. So ultimately, we are just
4 here to let you know that we're here to better understand
5 the economic impacts. We know that you'll be talking
6 about that in your process later this year.
7 I wanted to let you know about our project. You
8 can follow that on our website at SLOEDC.org. We have a
9 Diablo page that's set up. We've just began work on June
10 1st with our consultant team. We'll be taking looks to
11 really better understand the economic impacts on our local
12 communities, all the way to the ZIP code level, and
13 develop a strategy to offset or mitigate those impacts.
14 We're going to be working on this for
15 approximately two years and have a very robust public
16 outreach process that will engage residents, business,
17 community, local organizations, education and local
18 government in a number of ways, through a series of
19 workshops and one-on-one meetings and small group
20 meetings. But really, the overall goal of our project is
21 to build capacity and really work on a shared-ownership
22 strategy for helping our region recover from this. This
23 will be the single largest economic impact that the
24 Central Coast will probably ever see. And this is
25 something that, you know, we are very focused on and
1 really excited to work with the community on. At the end

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2 of this project, we will have a strategy that shows us the
3 best ways to mitigate or offset the impacts to our
4 communities, and more importantly, an implementation
5 strategy and a monitoring plan to make sure we're making
6 success towards our goals.
7 So with that, I look forward to talking with
8 you, perhaps when you are ready to talk a little bit more
9 about economic development later this year. And in the
10 meantime, feel free to reach out with any questions
11 specific to this topic. And you can find me on our
12 website. Thank you.

Economic Vitality Corporation
June 27, 2018Environmental Impacts

Heather Matteson

Comments submitted on comment card.

1 - Have items submitted via the website been received? (I submitted three.)
2 - Are/will these items be grouped for evaluation?
3 - Is there an estimate on time when these itmes will be addressed?

Mothers for Nuclear
June 27, 2018Safety

Jane Swanson

15 MS. SWANSON: Thank you. Yes, Jane Swanson. I
16 am with San Luis Obispo Mothers for Peace and a
17 spokesperson.
18 First of all, I want to thank the PG&E
19 presenters and everybody on this advisory panel for being
20 so very well informed. The structure of this meeting is
21 excellent and clear. And the slides that PG&E has shown
22 us have been very useful, so thank you for all the hard
23 work that's gone into it.
24 I have two questions. Number one, after all

Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Public Engagement Panel
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25 this spent fuel is put into dry casks -- I believe the
1 year was 2032 -- will the spent fuel pool or the cask
2 loading part of it be kept available just in case of a
3 need to repackage one of the dry casks or more than one?
4 I am thinking that repackaging possibly might be needed in
5 the event of corrosion or leaking of a cask or, hopefully
6 extremely unlikely, sabotage of some of the dry storage
7 casks. So that's question one about the ability to
8 repackage.
9 Question number two is about the trucking of
10 waste products of waste from the plant. I understand that
11 the thought is the most likely scenario is trucking,
12 followed by rail. And I am envisioning both the
13 radioactive waste and the heavy concrete and cut-up
14 components of Lord knows what all being removed from the
15 site. And I am wondering if the -- well, I kind of
16 personally doubt that the roads, the bridges, the
17 overpasses and the rail beds are qualified to handle such
18 extremely heavy loads. I can't think of anything else
19 that goes on a train through our county and down through
20 Los Angeles that would be nearly as heavy as the stuff
21 that would be coming from a nuclear power plant, so that's
22 my second question. Thank you very much.
23 MR. ANDERS: Thank you very much.
24 And that concludes our public comment period for
25 this evening. Again, there are multiple avenues of public

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1 input, and we encourage you, if you have any questions or
2 any comments for the panel, to take advantage of those
3 pathways.
4 Now is the time for the panel to have a
5 discussion of anything you've heard or any questions you
6 might want to ask.

SLO Mothers For Peace
June 27, 2018Transportation

Coleman Clint MIller

Submitted on comment card.

How do Engagement Panel input items (repurposing options) get incorporated by PG&E for submittal for approval by the appropriate regulatory bocies?

PG&E
June 8, 2018Transportation

By NRC rule I believe PG&E is required to provide a decommissioning cost estimate based on removal of all structures. However, only the radioactive hazard is required to be removed by law. Only a small portion of the plant contains radioactive piping systems and only a few locations contain contaminated or activated concrete.
Please consider leaving most of the structures in place after the radioactive hazard has been removed. This will greatly reduce the thousands of truck shipments from the site to haul non-radioactive debris to another location. Every truck shipment presents a risk and every truck shipment increases pollution. In Europe there are many ruins of cathedrals and castles. These are monuments to the endeavors of humanity for good or ill. Please limit the senseless increase in pollution and risk of highway accidents from hauling non-hazardous debris from this site.
Reducing such shipments will also greatly reduce the actual decommission cost. Unspent funds can be returned to the rate payers and or society in general for good works versus hauling dirt and rubble from here to there.

June 8, 2018Transportation

The most efficient means of transporting large components and debris from a coastal site is by barge versus truck. The replacement steam generators were delivered seamlessly to the site by barge a decade ago. The Trojan plant in Oregon, a twin of Diablo Canyon, had its radioactive reactor pressure vessel shipped out whole by barge during decommissioning. Shipping by barge greatly reduces air pollution versus truck transport. Although barge transport is the logical choice, the California Coastal Commission hates barge transport.

Suggest the Panel enlist the support of the California Air Resources Board and the SONGS Decommissioning community group to petition the Coastal Commission to enable barge transport for a few years. No one wants to harm our coast line. Barge transport can eliminate thousands of truck shipments and greatly reduce the time needed to decommission the power plant. Overall risk is reduced, air pollution is reduced, the time to complete the project is reduced and so is the cost. Unspent decommissioning funds can be returned to the rate payers or society at large for good works.

June 8, 2018Transportation

The radioactive rector vessel of the Trojan plant in Oregon, a twin of Diablo Canyon, was shipped whole by barge and buried at the US Ecology low level waste (LLW) disposal site in Richland, Wa. The Richland site is the LLW disposal site for the Northwest and Rocky Mountain Compacts. Currently Diablo Canyon cannot ship waste to the Richland site because it is in the Southwestern Compact.

Suggest the panel petition the next Governor of California, perhaps in a coalition with the SONGS decommissioning community group, to determine what the Northwest LLW Compact requires for the reactor vessels in California to be disposed of at the Richland site. The Northwest Compact agreed to take waste from the Rocky Mountain Compact in the past for a fee. Disposal of the large reactor vessels from California whole at Richland, Wa would greatly reduce the time, number of waste shipments and decommissioning cost.

June 8, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

Many power plant sites in the US are re-branding themselves as Energy Centers. The switch yard and Desalination unit at Diablo Canyon are assets for such repurposing. The large scale local renewable electric generation units ( 500 MWe of PV solar in north county, 1000 MWe off-shore wind at Morro Bay) will need electrical energy storage. Currently, there is an excess of electricity at mid day from solar and this will only increase in the future.

Routing the excess mid day electricity to Diablo to power the Desal unit at low to no cost would be a great use of this glut. Make water when there is too much electricity.

In addition, the site could become a test bed for various electrical storage technologies. The large solar power towers currently store excess mid-day energy in molten salt tank. The heat from these tanks is used in the evening to power turbine to generate electricity when the sun doesn't shine. Identical tanks and turbines could be located at Diablo and heated with excess mid-day electricity. Lithium batteries may not be the best technology for large scale electrical storage. Flow batteries require large tanks. Diablo Canyon would be a good location such a system. Fresh water from the desal unit could be converted into hydrogen via electrolysis at mid-day and stored to be burned in gas turbines or fuel cells in the evening when electricity is needed.

June 7, 2018Lands

1. I just watched the May 30 meeting on the county government channel. Very educational. Please make these videos of all the meetings available on the engagement website.

2. Land use issue resource: SLO Land Consevancy

None
June 5, 2018Environmental Impacts

Your “decommissioning engagement panel” is a thinly-disguised attempt to lend legitimacy to the premature destruction of California’s #1 source of carbon-free electricity.

Shame on you.

The global environmental preservation community
June 5, 2018Economic Impacts

I was appalled to hear that you have selected the Mothers for Peace for the panel. As a shareholder and member of the community I cannot understand how you can permit an organization whose past efforts helped lead to the loss of jobs for many hundreds of dedicated PG&E employees, the forced relocation of many of our long-time neighbors and an enormous negative economic impact to our community to participate. The Mothers For Peace are ignorant fear-mongers with little or no real knowledge of Nuclear power and they in no way represent the interests of the public or our community. Their very presence demeans the integrity of your panel and I, and I am sure many others, demand that they be removed from participating.

Rational Human Beings
June 1, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

Please include me on your email list for notices about the Decom process and panel meetings. Thank you.

May 31, 2018Lands

It seems to me that, at some point, a smaller security boundary could be drawn around the plant and the spent fuel, contaminated parts, allowing the remainder to be more freely accessible (e.g. if transferred to County or State Parks). Is such a think feasible? Practical? And at what stage could this be done (i.e. tied to what milestone)?

May 30, 2018Environmental Impacts

I think many in the community don't realize that there will be huge impacts from decomissioning. It is far better to keep the plant running for longer to make these costs and impacts more worth it in the end. Not only is a running plant better than a decomissioning plant, it's also better than having no plant at all because of the huge amount of greenhouse-gas-free electricity it provides. There is still no concrete plan for how to replace this clean generation, and it seems like we, as Californians, and also as humanity, should keep our options open.

Mothers for Nuclear, San Luis Obispo
May 30, 2018Community Outreach Process

Rochelle Backer, Grover Beach, CA

25· · · · · · MS. BECKER:· My name is Rochelle Becker and I'm
·1· ·the executive director of the Alliance for Nuclear
·2· ·Responsibility and I would like to welcome you.· As one
·3· ·of the persons on the Selection Committee, I have read
·4· ·all of your resumes, impressed by every single one of
·5· ·you and I'm glad that you are available to sit on this
·6· ·committee.
·7· · · · · · There is another resource.· Sorry, but I think
·8· ·it's helpful.· The Alliance not only works on the Diablo
·9· ·Canyon issue, but we have also worked on the San Onofre
10· ·issue for decades and so we watch closely the engagement
11· ·panel in San Onofre and we reached out to that panel
12· ·before I actually read your resumes to say, okay, what
13· ·are your pluses and what are your minuses, what do you
14· ·think is -- are the good points of your committee and
15· ·what are some of the drawbacks.· They thought that
16· ·meeting three times a year was a drawback.· So I'm not
17· ·telling them you're meeting ten times a year or more,
18· ·but they have to squeeze that in and you need to know
19· ·you can't burn out.· This is really an important job.
20· ·So thank you for doing it, but also know that they feel
21· ·the pressure.
22· · · · · · They also thought it was very important to have
23· ·elected officials.· We don't have any current elected
24· ·officials, but we do have former elected officials and
25· ·we're glad to see you there, Frank, but I would
·1· ·recommend you reach out to the SONGS decommissioning
·2· ·panel.· They have invited the chair of that panel to

·3· ·speak at the next Diablo Canyon Independent Safety
·4· ·Committee meeting, which is in -- I think it's June 14th
·5· ·and 15th.· I'm not positive the schedule is going to
·6· ·work for that, but if not, they will try again in their
·7· ·fall meeting.· Dave is an excellent resource.· He
·8· ·teaches at UCSB.· I would recommend that you show up
·9· ·when he's there and take advantage of him being in our
10· ·community.· This has been -- they've had a lot of
11· ·negatives and a lot of positives, a lot of community
12· ·anger and a lot of community support and you're going to
13· ·be facing all of the same things and I just wish you all
14· ·well in your job.· Thank you.

A4NR
May 30, 2018Community Outreach Process

Fred Collins, Los Osos, CA

·6· · · · · · MR. COLLINS:· Fred Collins, chair for the
·7· ·Northern Chumash Tribal Council.· I'm here today
·8· ·speaking as an agency.· We're not a public entity.· We
·9· ·are a stakeholder in this process.· I want to thank PG&E
10· ·and this panel for convening.
11· · · · · · As the process moves forward, we will be
12· ·reviewing everything from at the PUC to the EPA,
13· ·California Coastal Commission.· In all the different
14· ·agencies, we have review power.· So what I'm here today
15· ·to do is to offer you our opinions and our services as
16· ·you move forward.· We think it's critical that you have
17· ·Native American input on these issues that are going to
18· ·be going on out there at the plant.
19· · · · · · I have the -- in my lifetime, I've seen
20· ·it start -- you know, I saw the protest, I saw it built,
21· ·I saw it built backwards and I saw it rebuilt again and,
22· ·you know, I've seen the process of how our cultural
23· ·resources have been vastly destroyed out there and I
24· ·want to make sure that everybody understands that as we
25· ·decommission and as we shut this down, we're not going
·1· ·to stand for the same kind of destruction in Native
·2· ·American resources as there was in the beginning when
·3· ·this thing was put up and it should stop.· We're here
·4· ·trying to preserve 1 percent of 100 percent that was
·5· ·underneath our stewardship in the beginning.
·6· · · · · · So, you know, it's very important that we -- as
·7· ·an agency and stakeholder, we would like to come back
·8· ·and, you know, I can spend some time and really give you
·9· ·an in-depth understanding of what that property's all
10· ·about.· You know, we're concerned about the future uses.
11· ·We have an application in for a marine sanctuary,

12· ·Chumash Heritage Marine Sanctuary off our coast.· These
13· ·things are super-important to us and, you know, the
14· ·preservation of our cultural resources out there is
15· ·primary and, you know, whatever you come up with, if you
16· ·can -- if you have our input and you have our opinions
17· ·on the table, you may not agree with them, but at least
18· ·you're going to be able to make a decision that, you
19· ·know, you've got all your information and, you know, my
20· ·family and I, we've been walking this land for over
21· ·15,000 years continuously.· My family's from the Picchu.
22· ·You know, the village that was destroyed when the plant
23· ·went in was my family's village.
24· · · · · · So, you know, we have deep roots in this whole
25· ·process.· We haven't been contacted by PG&E to get into
·1· ·the consultation process yet, but there's a long
·2· ·process, I know.· I won't even be here when it's done,
·3· ·my grandson will be, but, you know, I think it's really
·4· ·important that you have our input and so I'm here to
·5· ·offer our assistance and input.· Any time you guys want
·6· ·to, you know, look through the lens of a Native American
·7· ·tribal government, please give us a call.· They'll send
·8· ·you an email.· www.NorthernShumash.org is our web page.
·9· ·You can see my email there.· So thank you very much for
10· ·this opportunity.

Northern Chumash Tribal Council
May 30, 2018Decommisioning Funding

Patrick McGibney, Baywood Park, CA

MR. MCGIBNEY:· My name is Patrick McGibney.
20· ·I'm from Baywood Park, been there for 45 years.· This is
21· ·more of a question than a comment.· I would like to
22· ·thank the commission for your volunteers and your
23· ·dedication to our community.
24· · · · · · One comment that Alex had made was the fact
25· ·that the NRC doesn't care if PG&E does a SAFSTOR or does
·1· ·a decon.· So I would like to believe that PG&E is doing
·2· ·what's in the community's best interest, but we all know
·3· ·that PG&E is a large corporation and they do what's in
·4· ·their shareholders' best interest.· So if they can
·5· ·choose a longer period to extend their time for
·6· ·decommissioning, such as another 67 years, I think, as
·7· ·Frank mentioned, and then, also, Frank, you did mention
·8· ·that none of us are going to be here in that time, so
·9· ·what we're doing tonight could be completely moot if
10· ·we're talking about land use, what we're going to do
11· ·with the land, and they extend it out another 30, 40
12· ·years, there's going to be whole 'nother community
13· ·that's living here at that time and may make another
14· ·decision.
15· · · · · · So you need to be able to get the money from
16· ·the ratepayers to be able to decommission the plant.
17· ·The longer you wait, the more money you can be
18· ·accumulating.· How do we know that PG&E is really going
19· ·to be moving forward with this at this time?· That would
20· ·be my question to Tom, I believe it is, and that's not a
21· ·rhetorical question.· I would like an answer.· Thank
22· ·you.

May 30, 2018Economic Impacts of Decommissioning

Sean Pringle, Pismo Beach, CA

23· · · · · · MR. PRINGLE:· Good evening, members of the
24· ·panel.· My name is Sean Pringle.· I'm an engineer at the
25· ·power plant.· I was born at Sierra Vista Hospital.· I've
·1· ·been a member of the community my whole life.· I went to
·2· ·Cal Poly, graduated in 2016.· My first job out of
·3· ·college has been working at Diablo Canyon Power Plant.
·4· ·When I did my first tour at the power plant, I was
·5· ·incredibly amazed by just how great of a facility it was
·6· ·and the amazing, remarkable employees that work there.
·7· ·I just wanted to echo what Mr. Baldwin mentioned, which
·8· ·is that we have a very talented workforce.· Many of them
·9· ·are young, and by 2025, they'll still have 15, 20, 30
10· ·more years of workforce life ahead of them.· So I just
11· ·wanted it to be a discussion topic for this panel how we
12· ·can continue to support that talented workforce after
13· ·the plant, if it's reusing the infrastructure at the
14· ·plant and in helping it to retain them because they have
15· ·families in this area and, like myself, it's difficult
16· ·to leave once you've been here so long.
17· · · · · · And the last thing I just wanted to echo was
18· ·Mr. Frank's comment.· We're still operating the power
19· ·plant safely and reliably every day.· It's been our
20· ·mission and it will continue to be our mission even
21· ·throughout these next few years.· That's what we're
22· ·going to do for our families and our community and we
23· ·all kind of have it in our hearts it's never too late to
24· ·turn back and to continue operating, but it's our
25· ·commitment to this community to operate that plant
·1· ·safely and reliably.· Thank you.

May 30, 2018Environmental Impacts

Gene Nelson, San Luis Obispo, CA

17· · · · · · MR. NELSON:· Good evening.· My name is Dr. Gene
18· ·Nelson.· I have a Ph.D. in radiation biophysics and I
19· ·serve as the government liaison to Californians for
20· ·Green Nuclear Power Incorporated.· We are a CPUC
21· ·intervenor who has legal standing in this proceeding and
22· ·we have challenged the proceeding and filed an
23· ·application for a rehearing and we've given you some
24· ·summary information in these handouts that I believe
25· ·everybody now has.
·1· · · · · · Our goals are to protect the region's economy
·2· ·and the environment.· We know the case of SONGS that
·3· ·rates skyrocketed 20 to 25 percent when SONGS was
·4· ·abandoned because of mismanaged routine service.· We
·5· ·want to maintain the option for desalination.· Diablo
·6· ·Canyon could put in a huge desalination facility to help
·7· ·this area much bigger than Carlsbad.
·8· · · · · · We also know that there's precedent for these
·9· ·kinds of proceedings to be pushed back.· In the case of
10· ·Palisades Nuclear Plant, there was pushback and the
11· ·owners of Palisades, rather than abandoning their --
12· ·voluntarily abandoning their plant said the heck with
13· ·this, we'll keep running, and we strongly encourage PG&E
14· ·to consider that as something and we will be persisting
15· ·to make sure that happens.
16· · · · · · We've been fighting for ratepayers and the
17· ·environment since 2013 with countless trips thousands of
18· ·miles long to places like San Francisco and Sacramento.
19· ·We're currently bird-dogging SB1090, which just passed

20· ·in the California State Senate, and we testified against
21· ·it in three separate hearings.
22· · · · · · So in terms of what my own experience, I've
23· ·served as a professor of engineering at Cal Poly and a
24· ·physical sciences professor at Cuesta College, and one
25· ·of the key things that I encourage of everyone on this
·1· ·panel, as just -- as my students, is to practice
·2· ·critical thinking, not to just go into following
·3· ·emotions and fear and fearmongering.· Unfortunately,
·4· ·that's been the narrative a lot here.
·5· · · · · · Now, furthermore, as a private citizen, I own a
·6· ·home in San Luis Obispo.· I love this area.· I've been
·7· ·here since 2006.· I want to protect the value of my home
·8· ·and I do not want to see the likely ruinous increases in
·9· ·property taxes.· So for all those reasons, we want to
10· ·keep the plant running and we hope to put your committee
11· ·out of business.· Thank you very much.

California's for Green Nuclear Power
May 30, 2018Environmental Impacts

William Gloege, Orcutt, CA

·4· · · · · · MR. GLOEGE:· Hi.· My name is William Gloege.
·5· ·I'm president of Californians for Green Nuclear Power.
·6· ·We've been in business for about five years.· Most of us
·7· ·are educated.· We've got four Ph.D.s from MIT, Stanford,
·8· ·Cal Berkeley, places like that.· We are for keeping the
·9· ·plant open because we see global warming as a tremendous
10· ·threat bearing down upon everybody on the planet.
11· · · · · · Now, I don't know if you feel yourselves as
12· ·members -- representatives of PG&E or of the public.
13· ·Please think of yourself as representatives of the
14· ·public.
15· · · · · · I started this organization for my two
16· ·grandchildren because I read a lot about global warming
17· ·and the absolute threat that that poses to our earth.
18· · · · · ·Now, the best scientists like James Hansen of
19· ·the United States and James Lovelock of the UK are
20· ·saying nuclear power is the best option for replacing
21· ·fossil fuel that is killing the planet.
22· · · · · · I used to be on the same side as my friends at
23· ·Diablo Canyon and I kind of miss those days.· We were
24· ·saying the same thing, supporting the same cause, and it
25· ·was a great cause and it's a great plant and the people
·1· ·that work up there are unbelievable.· They're some of
·2· ·the best people I met in my life.· So, you know, I'm not
·3· ·against anybody or disliking anybody or anything like
·4· ·that.· I'm up here for the planet and for my
·5· ·grandchildren, and there's a great grandfather coming
·6· ·up.· Think about this.· Now, if you represent the
·7· ·public, think about that -- those grandchildren and the

·8· ·great grandchildren because that's the most important
·9· ·thing to think about.· PG&E is a company, but it's a
10· ·public utility.· It's not like your clothing shop down
11· ·at the store that the corner can close any time it
12· ·wants.· It's a public utility and that's why it's
13· ·controlled by the government and we need to keep this
14· ·public utility going.· This plant's good for another 60
15· ·years.· They just put in about 780 million dollars worth
16· ·of improvements.· I toured it four times.· It's
17· ·fantastic.· They watch everything, they check everything
18· ·and then they check it again.
19· · · · · · So I'm for keeping the plant open and I hope
20· ·you will be too and I hope you will keep an open mind
21· ·and think of yourselves as a representative of my
22· ·grandchildren and yours and all the grandchildren here.
23· ·Global warming is serious business.· We're at 44 parts
24· ·per million CO2 in the atmosphere.· Do I have that
25· ·right?· I'm a little nervous up here, but we've got a
·1· ·lot of CO2 and that doesn't come down for a long time.
·2· · · · · · So, you know, please keep the minimum amount of
·3· ·CO2 by keeping Diablo Canyon open and let's build more
·4· ·nuclear plants like there are in many places in the
·5· ·world right now.· Thank you very much.

California's for Green Nuclear Power
May 30, 2018Lands

David Weisman, Morro Bay, CA
MR. WEISMAN:· Good evening, panelists, and I'm
10· ·not officially the person -- well, we welcome you, I
11· ·guess, as the public.· Thank you for your engagement and
12· ·your offer of service.· My name is David Weisman.· I'm
13· ·the outreach coordinator for the Alliance for Nuclear
14· ·Responsibility, and while you've already heard, this
15· ·seems to be a rather heavy burden of research and
16· ·information and I don't want to make you have to drink
17· ·further from the large fire hose that's being sprayed at
18· ·you, but further that, having said that, by saying
19· ·there's probably other external groups and agencies that
20· ·you may or may not be aware of whose input or
21· ·consultation is something that you might want to
22· ·consider as your panel moves forward, the kind of folks
23· ·you might even want to invite or engage to work with
24· ·you, and on this case, I point out to one group also
25· ·chartered by the California Public Utilities Commission
·1· ·and that's the Independent Peer Review Panel, which was
·2· ·established by PUC to provide a state-based oversight of
·3· ·the seismic studies that PG&E does at the Diablo Canyon
·4· ·site and where the nexus would be for this panel's work
·5· ·is because that panel, the Independent Peer Review
·6· ·Panel, which meets in San Francisco periodically and
·7· ·whose meetings are available on our website and our You
·8· ·Tube channel, A4NR You Tube channel, in their entirety
·9· ·is because that panel was going to expire, but was
10· ·extended, and as part of the extension, the law at that

11· ·time said the commission shall convene or continue until
12· ·August 26, 2025, an Independent Peer Review Panel to
13· ·conduct an independent review of enhanced seismic
14· ·studies and surveys of the Diablo Canyon Units 1 and 2
15· ·Power Plant, here's the key line, including the
16· ·surrounding areas of the facility and the areas of
17· ·nuclear waste storage.
18· · · · · · So listening to this panel as they go ahead and
19· ·analyze that might affect it because when you're looking
20· ·to possibly reuse, redevelop, do something with the
21· ·land, you wouldn't, for example, want to build or put
22· ·something in a place that might be seismically unstable.
23· · · · · · So as these experts further untangle what is
24· ·the fractured soil underneath, it might be worth
25· ·inviting them or considering their input because they
·1· ·will be giving, in a sense, an analysis of the very land
·2· ·itself that you are actually talking about when you talk
·3· ·about reusing the land, and as you saw fuel up there, as
·4· ·well, the seismic stability of the spent fuel area,
·5· ·which itself could be impacted or have impact on
·6· ·whatever surrounding development should occur.
·7· · · · · · So, again, I point out the Independent Peer
·8· ·Review Panel of the CPUC as a resource and go-to as your
·9· ·workings forward.· Thank you very much and best of luck.

A4NR
May 30, 2018Other

Charles Intrieni

Submitted speaker card - did not speak.
A project plan with milestones, schedule resources and accountability is critical to the success of the project. Use LEAN initiatives. Will you used Kaizen techniques? Use Voice of the Culture and Voice of the Employee. Eliminate all waste and bring value to your project.

SLOCCBA
May 30, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

Don Maruska, Los Osos, CA

15· · · · · · MR. MARUSKA:· Hello.· I'm Don Maruska.· Our
16· ·family is 44-year residents of the county, living in Los
17· ·Osos, and I just wanted to share some perspectives with
18· ·you because, as somebody who founded three companies in
19· ·Silicon Valley and now since coming to this area serve
20· ·as a business coach to organizations and work with
21· ·people solving tough issues together, I see tremendous
22· ·opportunity for this community.· Change creates
23· ·opportunity and so how can we capitalize on that and
24· ·that, I think, is really the cornerstone of what we have
25· ·an opportunity to assess here.
·1· · · · · · So I'm looking at what can be a win-win-win of
·2· ·possibility in this context.· By that, I mean a win for
·3· ·the community, a win for PG&E and its ratepayers and a
·4· ·win for the partners that might come forward and provide
·5· ·new opportunities out of the Diablo Canyon Power Plant
·6· ·overall facility, but how are we going to do that and
·7· ·what can we do to make that happen?· That's going to be
·8· ·the critical issue.
·9· · · · · · The way it can be a win-win-win is that if
10· ·there are opportunities for partners in the community to
11· ·make use of facilities at Diablo Canyon, the then means
12· ·that PG&E won't have to go to the full expense of taking
13· ·those facilities down to bare ground and trying to
14· ·remediate everything.· These are all the existing use
15· ·facilities.· They can actually save money on what the
16· ·decommissioning's going to cost and that creates, also,
17· ·an opportunity for groups, either Cal Poly or others.
18· ·I'm not speaking on their behalf, but there are a lot of

19· ·different groups I've been brainstorming with that have
20· ·ideas of what can be done there.
21· · · · · · So what's needed, though, to make that happen
22· ·is that these things take a long time to come together.
23· ·My experience in other communities with these kinds of
24· ·transition projects is they take eight years of planning
25· ·to come to fruition.· So 2025 is around the corner for
·1· ·assembling the agencies, the grants and everything else
·2· ·you need to do to do any significant thing on this
·3· ·parcel.
·4· · · · · · So my suggestion to the panel and to PG&E is to
·5· ·really forward think it.· Maybe put out some money on a
·6· ·proposal basis to organizations that want some help and
·7· ·get some resources to do some advanced planning, then
·8· ·you could put into this triennial report concrete ideas
·9· ·on alternate uses and you'd begin to get things rolling
10· ·and we could leverage other money from the community,
11· ·from federal agencies, et cetera, to make these things
12· ·happen and get this economy turning around versus just
13· ·going -- stalling out in 2025.
14· · · · · · So with your good leadership, and I've had the
15· ·pleasure of working with a number of you on solving
16· ·tough issues together, I'm sure that you can pull this
17· ·off, but I think we need to start now rather than say,
18· ·okay, we're going to look at what's going to happen down
19· ·the road and hope that your forward leadership will
20· ·carry us there.· Thank you very much.

May 30, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

William Toman, Los Osos, CA

12· · · · · · MR. TOMAN:· Good evening.· My name is Bill
13· ·Toman.· I live in Los Osos.· Thank you very much for
14· ·joining this panel.· We need a diverse set of voices to
15· ·properly plan for the incredible changes coming to our
16· ·region through the retirement of the Diablo Canyon
17· ·Nuclear Plant.
18· · · · · · I am a graduate nuclear engineer and my first
19· ·job out of engineering school was with the manufacturer
20· ·of the reactor at Diablo Canyon out in Pittsburgh,
21· ·Pennsylvania.· I worked for two nuclear utilities in my
22· ·career and so I'm very familiar with the processes, the
23· ·mechanics, the physics, all the things that go on with
24· ·nuclear power plants, keeping them safe and the eventual
25· ·retirement of those facilities when their time has come.
·1· · · · · · PG&E's economic consultants, when they put
·2· ·together the joint proposals, did an analysis of how
·3· ·much Diablo Canyon will be used in 2025 and the number
·4· ·that they came up with is that it would be producing
·5· ·about 9 gigawatt hours a year of electricity.
·6· ·Currently, it generates about twice that, 18 gigawatt
·7· ·hours a year.· This is because there's going to be
·8· ·increasing penetration renewable energy over the next
·9· ·eight years, and as a flight of load from the
10· ·traditional utilities to community choice aggregation
11· ·entities.· Between those two phenomenon, Diablo Canyon
12· ·is simply not going to be needed in 2025.· The ALJ for
13· ·the CPC came to a finding that the Diablo Canyon output
14· ·is not necessary for the reliability of the great of

Diablo Canyon Decommissioning Public Engagement Panel
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15· ·California.
16· · · · · · I'm here to say that it is perfectly feasible
17· ·to replace all of the 9 gigawatt hours a year of
18· ·generation of Diablo in 2025 with renewable energy and
19· ·storage and I would urge this panel to look at
20· ·especially during the sessions for repurposing the
21· ·assets of Diablo to perhaps consider a parallel path
22· ·about what could be repurposed for renewable energy and
23· ·especially for offshore wind, which could, with just 2
24· ·or 300 floating wind turbines, completely replace that 9
25· ·gigawatt hours of generation here on the Central Coast,
·1· ·providing jobs and construction maintenance of that
·2· ·renewable energy technology while putting the Diablo
·3· ·Canyon plant to a safe rest.· Thank you very much.

Ideol SA
May 29, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

I’m getting some feedback about the intake and discharge coves, and have learned that there may be strong disagreement on what their future should look like during and after the decommissioning. I think everyone agrees that we want to restore/create a marine/coastal environment that is as healthy and bio-diverse as possible. But there appears to be disagreement on how we get there. Some argue that we should keep the breakwater, to among other things maintain a healthy environment as well as provide shelter for marine mammals and other life during stormy weather, etc. Others argue that the breakwater has interfered with a healthy environment, negatively affecting harbor seals, abalone, and other species; these folks may argue to remove the breakwater, which as I understand it is the default CPUC position.

May 24, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

I was approached by the Marine Mammal Center about the decommission process. As you may know, MMC operates facilities to rescue, rehabilitate, and release marine mammals. (They have treated over 20,000 marine mammals including sea lions, seals, and otters in its over 40-year history.) MMC has operations in Morro Bay and Monterey, which act as triage units for emergency care before animals are taken way up to Saucelito where the main hospital is located. Interestingly, PG&E and MMC have had a successful partnership along the way – PG&E even features the organization in some of its commercials (you can google/youtube that, or I can send you a clip if you’d like). The Marine Mammal Center has been exploring options for a future new hospital facility along the Central Coast -- consistent with their five year strategic plan to build out satellite facilities to provide more local, urgent rehabilitation care and to incorporate more public engagement and education. They considered the now-defunct sea lion “aquarium” in Morro Bay but the space is too small. In reviewing the decommissioning process, they saw a potential, excellent fit with the facilities at Diablo Canyon. The intake of salt water is key to their operations (they have to “make” salt water up in Saucelito). The inlet cove would be idea to intake injured/sick animals by boat, and also would serve as an excellent release area (as would the outlet cove). Existing facilities on the site could serve as the hospital itself. Also, they have been talking with Cal Poly recently about partnerships for marine research -- and I believe Cal Poly too has expressed an interest in the Diablo site, including marine environment. They also see a potentially rewarding partnership with State Parks, given the site’s proximity to Montana de Oro. Lots of potentially good matches/collaborations there. Finally, MMC has been able to raise multiple millions of dollars to construct and operate its hospital in Saucelito – they have a strong fundraising capacity (as well as a potential base of wealthy donors in the Bay Area) that could be tapped into for renovations and other tasks necessary to create and operate a central coast animal care facility. I am hoping that we can explore this option as a potential excellent fit for reuse of one of the existing buildings, and to make another case for keeping the breakwater intact (rather than dismantling it after the plant closes). Do you have any suggestions about how to go forward with this? Are the panel members generally open to exploring this idea? If this idea is worth exploring, might we consider working with PG&E to set up a tour of the plant and environs with key representatives from MMC?

May 22, 2018Repurposing of Facilities

About the suggestion I received for Diablo becoming a CA repository for used fuel, the person who suggested it now recognizes the flawed assumption about DOE, in addition to recognizing that road access is undesirable.

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